flflyguy19

No not stressed out at all, I'm doing great. Sorry about the house comment but it really grinds my gears reading some of the **** on here and i can immediately tell that these guys are just a bunch of bitter pilots who want to do nothing but bad mouth the cargo industry. This is why freight dogs are the laughing stock of the industry because were full of the most bitter group who always point the fingers at everyone else. Especially in the ABX/DHL case, people are so quick to blame dhl for the downfall of airborne express but in reality had dhl not come in abx would be nothing but history.

wetpish

No worries. It's a situation that tends to bring emotions to the surface.

I think it's important to let go of the past and face reality of the current situation. It seems like there aer some foregone conclusions.

Hete is probablynot going to discount his price for the CMI portion. If he gets squeezed, He'll let someone else take the risk and he'll just collect his lease payments.

DHL has already gone through the pain of building a system that allows them to coordinate with a lot of different subcontractors. It would be easier for them to just work with one very reliable company but they have chosen to work with many. DHL can't own the airlines but they can provide the coordination. That way, they minimize the cost of the airlift service and maintain much greater control. They are in it for the long term this time. They are planning for a sustainable growth.

ABX has much higher costs than all of the other providers in the DHL corral. That is probably not going to hold.

I could be wrong but my assessment is that many of the ABX pilots think they have greater leverage in this situation than they really do.

If ABX loses DHL, what next? Charters? Go back to running their own brand?

Hete is going every indication that he wants to have a market to dry lease his planes. Cargo Jet, Amerijet, West Atlantic AB ...

METO Guido

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"DHL has already gone through the pain of building a system that allows them to coordinate with a lot of different subcontractors. It would be easier for them to just work with one very reliable company but they have chosen to work with many. DHL can't own the airlines but they can provide the coordination. That way, they minimize the cost of the airlift service and maintain much greater control. They are in it for the long term this time. They are planning for a sustainable growth."

This is a core argument. Unless you're humping the load to King Salmon, the $ for an operator is in connecting international customers. Consequently, the pressure on contracts will come from off shore as well. Ever consider what the PTY crews are negotiating for?

727CA

Anybody know the latest on Southern flying the 737's for DHL out of CVG?
I hear DHL's a bit dissatisfied with Southern because the 737 program isn't even off the ground yet.

EMD1594

I've seen only one 737 on the ramp. It's been going to KBDL, that's my understanding.

Who knows what DHL is thinking.

Kougarok

I was just in Caracas and there is a Southern 737 there going to Bogota 5 nights a week. How's that for a garden spot to layover for a week? (Caracas)

jercdevil

3 flying. I think there doing well.

captnpeter

Hello all from a LEGACY DHL Airways person.
Remember ASTAR!!!
At least you got a few more good years out of it.

KingAirKiddo

You heard wrong. The 737 program is on schedule and is delivering reliable and consistent performance.

MEMbrain

Who's ASSTAR?