METO Guido

They stay with ABX. Klink's secretary, Fraulein Helga.

borismud

I heard Southern got the contract with DHL but they are going to staff it using an alter ego, non-union airline so they can pay the pilots even less than they pay their 737 drivers.

kikojump

I heard this rumor last week. Still no official word?

maxjet

No way man! Pilots are WAY worse than old women when it comes to rumors!

kikojump

Hahahah...so true!!!

blogwth

ATSG quarterly report came out yesterday. Indicates total of four planes converted from internal lease to external lease. Two from ATI and two from ABX. All 767s

These do not include the four DHL CMI planes currently out for bid.

The report also said that ATSG is working on moving more planes from ACMI with internal leases to dry lease to external customers.

kikojump

But no news on who is getting them?

maxjet

I have heard nothing that can be backed up by anything factual. Lots of conjecture and lots of rumors. When it is announced it will be announced. The flying doesn't even start until next year so no hurry I guess.

maxjet

Wonder what happened?

Speed

The same thing that has always happened in DHL world, the same thing that will happen next time. They never make these announcements at the "deadline," so I've come to the conclusion that it's just part of their negotiation tactic. Sure, it's an open bid process, but they are well aware that pilot costs are an expense that is more easily manipulated than others (as opposed to fuel, maintenance, insurance). Setting tight deadlines exerts pressure on the pilot groups and they know that, even though there is no direct negotiation. Fortunately, the pilot groups involved didn't bite this time. However, there is going to be this constant indirect pressure from DHL to bring B767 wages down, and I don't see any way that the pilot groups involved will be able to resist that in the long run. Very unfortunate, since we are flying for a very profitable, very successful carrier.

We'll hear soon enough and I suspect anything is still possible concerning the four aircraft. They could go to any of the carriers mentioned, including staying with ABX. I'm expecting them to be placed elsewhere, but DHL hasn't always gone with the low bidder.