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Old 12-10-2014, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by c5pilot11 View Post
I guess the grass is always greener, however, I just thought that the possibility of getting hired at UPS is better than waiting for 6-12 months for a major to call.
6-12 months for a major to call? Dang, you must have good connections everywhere. I know former military folks who've been flying for the regionals for the last 4 years still waiting for the majors to call. Hope you're right.

Do NOT compare management jobs at other airlines and even the military to the setup we have at brown. Distrust and even hate are the only terms I can think of when it comes to the relationship between the two. ..and I actually like it here. lol

Your relative is a box head (non-airline) and things are a little different there so he/she probably won't truly understand the toxic relationship we have.
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Old 12-10-2014, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by c5pilot11 View Post
Anc74, So your saying that the turnover at UPS is fairly slow compared to the Majors? The seniority issue can be a problem for QOL. However, I was told that UPS compared to the majors is roughly $3M difference in retirement benefits in the long-term. I guess the grass is always greener, however, I just thought that the possibility of getting hired at UPS is better than waiting for 6-12 months for a major to call.
That's correct. We have very few retirements per year, compared to the thousands retiring from the major airlines. 40-50 a year retire here for the foreseeable future. No movement, and being junior here is about as bad as it gets anywhere..we do have a very solid union (IPA).

Also, always keep two things in mind with this place-1) they HATE you, and 2) it is not an airline, but a trucking company.
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Old 12-12-2014, 05:46 AM
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40-50 a year? This upcoming year of 2015, the mandatory retirements is in the Mid Twenty's. 26-28? Mandatory. Which is the only number which is solid. Most Majors and FDX have 20 a Month!! UPS is a Very, Very, Very young airline. Started in 1988. Not 1938. With Zero Aircraft Orders. Zero New Gateways on the Horizon. 40 New Pilots Hired in the Last 7 years should tell you the growth and QOL here.

Enough Said.
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Old 12-12-2014, 06:10 AM
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40-50 a year? This upcoming year of 2015, the mandatory retirements is in the Mid Twenty's. 26-28? Mandatory. Which is the only number which is solid. Most Majors and FDX have 20 a Month!! UPS is a Very, Very, Very young airline. Started in 1988. Not 1938. With Zero Aircraft Orders. Zero New Gateways on the Horizon. 40 New Pilots Hired in the Last 7 years should tell you the growth and QOL here.

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I count 21.
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Old 12-12-2014, 07:17 AM
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I stand corrected. 21 retirements next year.

No aircraft orders, no new routes, no hiring except to cover the 21 retirements.

Anybody applying here needs their head examined.
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Old 12-12-2014, 08:55 AM
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Or they just might need a job.
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Old 12-12-2014, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Full pull View Post
Or they just might need a job.
I don't even think UPS is hiring except for nurps, but pretty much all the other airlines are.
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Old 12-12-2014, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Anc74 View Post
That's correct. We have very few retirements per year, compared to the thousands retiring from the major airlines. 40-50 a year retire here for the foreseeable future. No movement, and being junior here is about as bad as it gets anywhere..we do have a very solid union (IPA).

Also, always keep two things in mind with this place-1) they HATE you, and 2) it is not an airline, but a trucking company.
And 3) EXPECTATION ZERO
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Old 12-12-2014, 09:31 AM
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Anyone know know how many NURPS have been hired since the last IPA class in 07? I betting almost as many as the 40 hired to the line this year. This has to get fixed.
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Wow! Stop the Press! Vacancy Bid for the Spring 2015! 7 Captain Vacancies!!!!
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