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12-10-2014 | 04:53 PM
#31
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Do NOT compare management jobs at other airlines and even the military to the setup we have at brown. Distrust and even hate are the only terms I can think of when it comes to the relationship between the two. ..and I actually like it here. lol
Your relative is a box head (non-airline) and things are a little different there so he/she probably won't truly understand the toxic relationship we have.
12-10-2014 | 05:06 PM
#32
Whale driver, get it?
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Anc74, So your saying that the turnover at UPS is fairly slow compared to the Majors? The seniority issue can be a problem for QOL. However, I was told that UPS compared to the majors is roughly $3M difference in retirement benefits in the long-term. I guess the grass is always greener, however, I just thought that the possibility of getting hired at UPS is better than waiting for 6-12 months for a major to call.
Also, always keep two things in mind with this place-1) they HATE you, and 2) it is not an airline, but a trucking company.
12-12-2014 | 05:46 AM
#33
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40-50 a year? This upcoming year of 2015, the mandatory retirements is in the Mid Twenty's. 26-28? Mandatory. Which is the only number which is solid. Most Majors and FDX have 20 a Month!! UPS is a Very, Very, Very young airline. Started in 1988. Not 1938. With Zero Aircraft Orders. Zero New Gateways on the Horizon. 40 New Pilots Hired in the Last 7 years should tell you the growth and QOL here.
Enough Said.
Enough Said.
12-12-2014 | 06:10 AM
#34
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40-50 a year? This upcoming year of 2015, the mandatory retirements is in the Mid Twenty's. 26-28? Mandatory. Which is the only number which is solid. Most Majors and FDX have 20 a Month!! UPS is a Very, Very, Very young airline. Started in 1988. Not 1938. With Zero Aircraft Orders. Zero New Gateways on the Horizon. 40 New Pilots Hired in the Last 7 years should tell you the growth and QOL here.
Enough Said.
Enough Said.
12-12-2014 | 09:24 AM
#38
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That's correct. We have very few retirements per year, compared to the thousands retiring from the major airlines. 40-50 a year retire here for the foreseeable future. No movement, and being junior here is about as bad as it gets anywhere..we do have a very solid union (IPA).
Also, always keep two things in mind with this place-1) they HATE you, and 2) it is not an airline, but a trucking company.
Also, always keep two things in mind with this place-1) they HATE you, and 2) it is not an airline, but a trucking company.
