FDX Sick calls
12-24-2014, 03:56 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
I know of a number of times this has been "waived" by management - I know first hand of a Capt that fell on the ice in ANC then flew to AFW, by the time he got to AFW both wrists were swollen and in pain. One was broken. He jump seated back to ANC the next day with both wrists in splints.
Also, the Capt that got beat up in Paris a few yrs ago while "just walking by a subway station at night" jump seated back to Memphis a few hrs after getting released from the hospital. His arm was in a sling, he had visible sutures and staples on his face and head, one eye was so swollen it looked like half an egg plant and who knows what meds were still in his system. I saw and talked to him myself in CDG ops as I was revised to operate his flight to MEM (we went 18 hrs late as I went fatigue in the field - that's another story
) and he jump seated back on the other MEM flight. An ambulance met that plane in MEM and he was carried off on a gurney.
Also, the Capt that got beat up in Paris a few yrs ago while "just walking by a subway station at night" jump seated back to Memphis a few hrs after getting released from the hospital. His arm was in a sling, he had visible sutures and staples on his face and head, one eye was so swollen it looked like half an egg plant and who knows what meds were still in his system. I saw and talked to him myself in CDG ops as I was revised to operate his flight to MEM (we went 18 hrs late as I went fatigue in the field - that's another story
) and he jump seated back on the other MEM flight. An ambulance met that plane in MEM and he was carried off on a gurney.Everybody wants to be help out, but I'm not so sure its such a great idea.
12-24-2014, 04:17 AM
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I would hope that everyone would be OK with providing their fellow pilot, who was "sick", due to a fall (unless it's caused by too much adult beverage or getting beaten up, a ride home. After all it's the humane thing to do, while at the same time I don't think that you'd have much chance of catching what caused them to be taken off their trip in the first place. As opposed to giving a ride to someone who is obviously "sick" with: flu-like symptoms; is running a fever; is coughing and sneezing all over the place; or is in obviously poor health. Giving that person a ride jeopardizes everyone else on the flight. Personally I would applaud managements' decision to allow someone in the former category, to jumpseat back to base or home.
or getting beaten up, a ride home. After all it's the humane thing to do, while at the same time I don't think that you'd have much chance of catching what caused them to be taken off their trip in the first place. As opposed to giving a ride to someone who is obviously "sick" with: flu-like symptoms; is running a fever; is coughing and sneezing all over the place; or is in obviously poor health. Giving that person a ride jeopardizes everyone else on the flight. Personally I would applaud managements' decision to allow someone in the former category, to jumpseat back to base or home.
12-24-2014, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
I would hope that everyone would be OK with providing their fellow pilot, who was "sick", due to a fall (unless it's caused by too much adult beverage or getting beaten up, a ride home. After all it's the humane thing to do, while at the same time I don't think that you'd have much chance of catching what caused them to be taken off their trip in the first place. As opposed to giving a ride to someone who is obviously "sick" with: flu-like symptoms; is running a fever; is coughing and sneezing all over the place; or is in obviously poor health. Giving that person a ride jeopardizes everyone else on the flight. Personally I would applaud managements' decision to allow someone in the former category, to jumpseat back to base or home.
or getting beaten up, a ride home. After all it's the humane thing to do, while at the same time I don't think that you'd have much chance of catching what caused them to be taken off their trip in the first place. As opposed to giving a ride to someone who is obviously "sick" with: flu-like symptoms; is running a fever; is coughing and sneezing all over the place; or is in obviously poor health. Giving that person a ride jeopardizes everyone else on the flight. Personally I would applaud managements' decision to allow someone in the former category, to jumpseat back to base or home.
12-24-2014, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by trip
I guess there's a reason you guys don't haul people around by the hundreds. Here's a saniwipe for your controls, jeeesh.
Your present flying job is a good "stepping stone" on your way to Purple. Don't get discouraged ... keep trying.
Stupid posts like this probably won't hurt your chances at all?
12-24-2014, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
Your present flying job is a good "stepping stone" on your way to Purple. Don't get discouraged ... keep trying.
Stupid posts like this probably won't hurt your chances at all?
Stupid posts like this probably won't hurt your chances at all?
I'll worry about getting the kids to Grammys house, thank-you. Hey, on top of that I will also take your sick F/O home. Welcome aboard.
12-24-2014, 07:56 AM
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The twelve angry men debate team, ladies and gentlemen....let's give them a round of applause...back to basics, if you're in domicile and about to start a trip, ask yourself if you would want your captain or your first officer to show up to a trip in your condition. I think we all can agree on that.
12-24-2014, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by trip
I'll worry about getting the kids to Grammys house, thank-you. Hey, on top of that I will also take your sick F/O home. Welcome aboard.
We don't have any "passengers" on FedEx aircraft! It doesn't matter if they are in the cockpit (are we still allowed to call it that?) or not - all on board are considered part of the crew and are required to meet FAR standards for flight!
12-24-2014, 09:45 AM
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I'd take most anyone home, if they don't have Ebola and can still walk and talk. If they're throwing up, no, unless they have no other option. We're already exposed to so much, what's another set of germs. Not many people out there jumpseating who are truly sick. If my fo is sick, I'll be happy to encourage him to get off the trip. Sometimes people just need that extra push. Cooperate and graduate is also my motto.
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