to you fine noggins at FDX and UPS, how would the new Age 65 rule affect upgrades to the left seat? As in, slightly or significantly? Many thanks.

 

Significantly.....

 

what airline, FDX or UPS? Thanks.

 

How bout every airline out there, not just the cargo guys.

 

Significantly.

Probably the best way to describe it is that you may have to work an extra 5 years to make the same amount of money. That means:
More time at regional airlines
More time spent on reserve
More time spent commuting
More time spent at crashpads
More time spent as FO
More time spent on smaller equipment making less money
More time having crappy schedules

But the ultimate impact is that there is a now a greater supply of pilots. Higher supply means less demand, means less pay, workrules, etc...

I can't believe all the time we spend here bitching about things that hurt the industry like scope, pay, work rules, scabs, outsourcing, etc...
But we have not had an organized effort to fight a change to age 60.
The industry is going to h*ll. We have the power to stop that. Do what you can to make sure age 60 is never changed.

 

The problem is that even at the top of your earning potential those last 5 years, you'll still never make back what you have lost...

 

Depends on the rules, I'll let you know in five years. On a similar note why don't we get rid of the guys and gals that have been with a company for 25 years. Lets face it 25 years of hub turning must have similar effects to a body as aging. Most of them can't increase their pension significantly anyways. If they don't have a pension; well, they had their shot. If they didn't save enough tough. They are in my seat. Move them out.

Additional thought, with all the mergers it might be tough to figure out what 25 years with one company is. Maybe the Feds can just put a 25 year time limit on an ATP. I got mine in 1999 so I'm good till I'm 78.
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Please note sarcasm in red.

 

AMEN!! Now I have to wait 5 more years probably to uprade, get a better sched. etc. Oh but that's OK because now I GET to work 5 more years of night cargo flying. Just what I want to do when I am 60-65. Maybe if I am lucky, I can get displaced by some retred coming off the panel. Oh what fun this is going to be. And for all UPSers out there, with the 72 going away, and the age limit raised, get ready for some fun in the next few years.

 

Won't your international growth counter the lack of upcoming retirements, however?

 

UPS will find some way to either stop hiring, or furlough.