This is a little judgmental... I understand why people are going to places like Kalitta, Atlas, and ATSG. It usually adds something to their resume that gets them to an Industry Standard job. Atlas has a 23 year old and that's because "no one else would hire" him. My guess is that he's at UPS or FedEx before he's 30.

There’s. 23 year old captain at ATI. His daddy hired him. The feds laughed when daddy put his name in for check airman.

Ours that I met doesn't know anyone but I think we've got more than 1. Atlas is an impressive gig for a 23 year old where he'll be a 767 Captain at 25. That'll translate into a real job somewhere.

Can any Atlas 76 guys out there give me an idea on how the rotation works? I know it's usually an 8/6 rotation starting out of CVG mostly but, what day of the week do you start? Do you bid for schedules quarterly or monthly? Is there a 8 day vacation? Anything helps except someone telling me to go to Allegiant. Your useless.

Should probably be in one of the Atlas threads but -

Not a 767 guy but looked at the January bids. Most lines start Sunday-Tuesday but some start Wednesday-Saturday. We bid monthly but about half the CVG lines were two month bids. Don't know what an 8 day vacation is. You get two weeks of vacation a year the first five years. If you move a week of vacation into the middle of a 9 or 10 line the whole thing will go away but you'll only get guarantee that month.

Allegiant is hiring.

Have you tried Kalitta?

Amazon expanded expansion plans at CVG
 

Amazon’s senior vice president of operations, Dave Clark, announced last week that the Seattle-based retailer had just added a parcel of land to the site of its future air operations hub at the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky Airport (CVG), following last year’s plans to invest US$1.5 billion into the project. “Amazon Air getting ready for take-off in KY!” Clark tweeted. “Just added 210 acres of land as part of the future CVG air hub.” The e-commerce giant is currently building a massive air freight hub at CVG, with construction due to start in 2019, according to airport officials. Before the expansion, the Read Here: https://aircargoworld.com/allposts/a...i-airport-hub/

You'll love working for these scumbags!

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...tband-tracking

I will be shocked if that 23 year old makes it. The amount of alcohol related posts that kid puts on social media plus a checkered history on other sites, the kid Does. Not. Get it.

We've got more than 1 at this point.

The one that had to wait at the end of his training for his 23rd birthday last summer is already gone. To Delta.

I heard about that on this trip... LUCKY!!!

If that kid keeps hustling while he's young he could retire in 20 years at 43 with a nice nest egg, or pull way back after and live a super senior good life. By the time he's 63 he'd have 40 years seniority. That's gotta result in pick of trips.

What's also interesting is that there is some good projected retirement coming up, so he's not only in early he's likely to have good progression if he wants it.

Not bad for someone who doesn't get it?

So you’re knocking down a 23 year olds success? He passed his check rides without a problem, got a waiver to complete OE early, flying the line, has had a good word put out by multiple senior captains on top of being an awesome guy to overnight with. At 23 with almost 10 internal recs and many outside recs, he was hired as an experiment which has obviously been successful.

I don’t see what you’re getting at. One of the youngest 767 pilots in the world and he’ll be a captain at 25...yea he really just doesn’t get it at all.

If he wasn’t on probation he would be glad to chime in here and not just burn a bridge, but he will blow it the **** up. He’s not one to burn bridges but you’re giving him a damn good reason to. Because of *******s like you, he smartened up since JC and got off the forums to distant himself from the crusty and the bitter like yourself. Sounds like he struck your nerve without doing anything...and now you’re in here dragging him into it? That’s pretty pathetic on your part. Don’t you have better things to do with your time?

So he posts a few pictures of having a drink in different parts of the world, what’s the problem?

You sound like a blast to have an overnight with; not to mention sharing a cockpit...go try and knock someone else down for doing good for themselves...and then after that, go pound sand.

Great first post! What are you drinking tonight? When's upgrade training? :D

BTW, and FWIW, etc, I think guys who dump on 23 year olds (or anyone else) for their success are lame and bitter. But if yo...er I mean he were 40, he would probably just cash his check and let the forums say the poop that forums say.

I've been on APC for years but haven't had the need to keep up with the forums on here but seeing this and having to flown with the kid made me have to throw a word in on it. He'll be set in his 40s if he gets out to a legacy. Hell, he'll be fine at Atlas and have some damn good seniority too if he decides to stay.

GrummanCT doesn’t need me to defend him...but he isn’t exactly what most would consider “old and crusty”.

Discretion better part of valor and all that...especially on Twitbook.

Amazon starting up Down Under.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKCN1GA2WK

Namaste...

Fly for Prime Air
 

You said you work for Amazon/Prime Air. Do they operate under Part 121? Where can I go to apply to Prime Air?

Just go to amazon website and search jobs. Enter code word “acidtripin” at checkout.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PRIME AIR

It doesn’t exist, there is no callsign, there is NO certificate, no ops, NOTHING!!!!!

its ACMI just like some homie with a 62 impala in santa cruz delivering a box as a sub contractor. Good grief

Idiots need to do their research a little better before being gutted on APC.

Then how is there Amazon bag tags?

Oh you get them when you scab for Hete.

I love that the 501st post in this thread is an angry reply at the original post.

He might not be angry...just a complete idiot!

It’s unfortunate that we missed the three year anniversary of this post. See you in October 2019!

We missed October 2019...but here were are a bit over four years beyond the original post and, perhaps to everyone's surprise and dismay, Amazon has yet to become the world's largest overnight parcel delivery service.

So where is Prime Air actually at, 50 airframes today with 20 more coming by the end of 2021 operated by no fewer than five different airlines?

Wow that four years went by fast.

The kid was a little-too-enthusiastic and a lot-too-arrogant, but it was no small feat to go in four years from that 2-plane cross-dock thing at ILN to a 51+ plane fleet and major-city network that functions pretty-darn-smoothly, in no small part to the efforts of many of the folks that post here on APC.

And the ground fleet growth has been significant as well - at least they've moved on from the sketchy dented white vans covered in dirt with no branding to the amazon branded vans (still run by contractors).

"Morgan Stanley estimates Amazon is delivering roughly 46% of the items ordered through its U.S. site today — a total of 2.5 billion parcels in 2019. Amazon Logistics' share of its own orders doubled in 2019."

Whoever thinks Amazon is not showing up to play in the delivery space is on something.

Think it depend on your location. We still have white , Budget and Hertz vans all over the place. I think they franchised out the local delivery stuff and the must have some overlap as there are so many of them. I had made an order of like 8 items the other day and 3 different vans made delivery.

Amazon to deliver 3.5 bln packages through own network in 2019

BY Reuters
— 12:57 PM ET 12/19/2019

Dec 19 (Reuters) - Amazon.com Inc. said on Thursday it was on track to deliver 3.5 billion customer packages globally this year through its in-house delivery network.

Amazon, with its growing network of delivery planes, trucks and vans, is regarded as a potential long-term threat to FedEx Corp (FDX) and United Parcel Service Inc (UPS), both of which have long counted the e-commerce company as a customer.

A Morgan Stanley analysis from last week estimated that Amazon (AMZN) logistics delivered about 20% of company's packages last year and nearly 46% in 2019 through August.

The brokerage estimated the Amazon ( AMZN) delivery network will move 6.5 billion packages for the company by 2022, more than UPS at 5 billion and FedEx (FDX) at 3.4 billion.

Amazon (AMZN) said it now has 150 U.S. delivery stations employing more than 90,000 people. (Reporting by Munsif Vengattil in Bengaluru; Editing by Shinjini Ganguli)

I guess we will have to wait until 2022.......

Thank you, ATI.

(Cut and paste of small part of another article)

The clean-sheet, technology-driven innovation at Amazon, coupled with cheaper capital, has caught FedEx flatfooted.

Amazon:

Has the most on-time deliveries the week following Black Friday: FedEx 90%; UPS 93%; Amazon 94%. Charges $80 for 600 pounds of boxes from a seller's warehouse vs. $104 at FedEx and $160 at UPS.

In Q4, Amazon will invest $1.5 billion in its one-day shipping initiative.

I don't get this. FDX delivers 3.4 billion packages and it has a fleet of nearly 400 aircraft but Amazon delivers 3.5 billion and only has 50 aircraft? How is this possible?

Amazon isn't a true express package delivery company like FDX that can deliver something from one side of the country (or world) to another in 18 hours via their air network, they are a retailer that stocks dozens of massive fulfillment centers across the country where the bulk of their last mile shipments originate and uses airplanes to move stuff between fulfillment centers.

True for now, but here is something to consider; from another article from viox:

Additionally, Amazon has begun offering a shipping service — dubbed Amazon Shipping — to merchants in some areas that would include non-Amazon deliveries as well, putting the company into direct competition with its current big partners like UPS and USPS. In these instances, Amazon would act in many ways like a traditional shipping company, handling everything from picking up orders at a merchant’s warehouse to executing the final delivery to their customer’s door. Morgan Stanley estimates that Amazon Logistics could be handling 1.5 billion to 3.5 billion non-Amazon packages by 2022, adding at least $7 billion in revenue to Amazon’s overall business.

The numbers seem odd. but the answer is likely ground vs air, 1 day vs 2 day vs 3-6 day. Faster means more air. But those numbers are probably apples to oranges somehow.

For what? Atlas, Southern, ABX all move Amazon also. Just don't use the bag tags or tell anyone.