MBM1

Does anyone have information on Miami Air, other then the training contract. How long and were training is, are they flying glass and most of all how is it to work for them?
Thanks

captjns

They are a pretty good company to work for... good hotels... good food, and you don't have to worry about being stranded at any location without being taken care of for lack of payment like some other supplemental carriers. However, pay, compared to industry standards, is very low... on a par with regional carrier pay. The turn over is primarily with F/Os, since upgrades are almost stagnent. Their primary income is from the DOD. Miami Air has an airplane dedicated to Martinair. They also share an aircraft with EXCEL, a UK carrier, with crews based in the UK during the summer months. Its a good way to get good right seat international experience on glass cockpit aircraft at lower than industry standard wages.

MBM1

Thank you for the information.

whiskerbizkit

Don't know if it has changed, but had 2 friends go there and was told its all reserve with 1 1/2 hr call out with 9 hard days off and 2 floating days off. One was called for a short trip and was gone for 3 weeks straight! Has that changed?

captjns

That's pretty typical for any nonsched carrier ala World, Omni, ATA. You need to pack for at least 1 week so on your day of rest, you can do laundry and go for another 6 days. If you're single and have no obligations its a great way to see the world and get paid for doing it to. Miami Air will take good care of you while on the road. You won't lose any weight either as they feed the crews pretty well. The hotels you stay at, while with Miami Air, are pretty respectable too. I would assume that the other nonsched carriers treat their crews as best as possible under the same circumstances.

Nacho

Miami Air has a 3 year training contract worth $18K. Currently they are doing sub-service in Amsterdam for Martinair. 2 planes are based there for July and August. They will more than likely be going back again next year. They fly ALL OVERTHE WORLD!!!!!! If you have your 1000 121 PIC and live a simple life and wish to see the world...it is a great place. Keep in mind, the 1000 IS NOT a requirement, but I highly recommend NOT considering Miami Air unless you have it. It is your ticket out should you decide to leave. The in-house union just recently merged with the local Teamsters. The current contract dates back to 98 and the current TA is at a stand-still. You could have the time of your life, but don't expect to get rich doing it. If you aren't familiar with S Florida, get to know it...it can be pricey. There are 2 seniority lists.....1 cpt and 1 FO. The cpt list moves pretty slowly, but the FO list is constantly moving. If you are an FO at a regional....stay where you are!!!!!

MuseumDriver

This policy of 24 hours of reserve doesnt fly at our FAA airline headquarters. Our POI claims there has to be a 8 hour rest period in the 24 hours, what happens if you just went to bed and they call you, you are supposed to be fit for a 16 hour duty day? If you guys arent all that thrilled about pulling 24 hours of reserve not knowing when you can sleep you should poke around the Louisville Flight Standards District office... they dont allow it.

moonchild

24 Hour Standby.

No schedule. Short staff pilots.

9 Days off per month.

Terrible Pay. 32k - 1st year. 34K second and so on.......

3 year $18k (we will go after you !!!!) training contract.

No benefits. Ask about their health care!!!

No jumpseat. Won't participate in CASS.

Must live in Miami Area.

No end in sight for a new contract.

Regular 16+ duty days. Can extend you for 19. And commercial you for 22!!!
Likes to play the part 91 ferry game.

Crappy Hotels.

If you've ever liked having a schedule or like to know what days you will have off next month you will dread this place.

Talk to a current non-management pilot before you drink the Kool Aid.

capto

know somebody working there, so far I've heard nothing good. Always on call, crappy pay and you'll be stuck there 3 years. I guess it can't get much worst than that.

Red Forman

You could be working for Mesa.