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Mikeav8r 03-01-2024 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold (Post 3775778)
I'm guessing there will be 0 upgrade classes in 2024... and maybe longer??
8 B-777 captains have left this year already but not a single upgrade class; and I think similar numbers on the 767 fleet.

Should those of us interested in the left seat look elsewhere or hold out hope?

The March 25th 767 class just got downsized by a few as well. Disappointing, but everything happens for a reason.

I hope everything works out for you all and things look up in the near future. Cheers

Overlander 03-01-2024 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by Mikeav8r (Post 3775811)
The March 25th 767 class just got downsized by a few as well. Disappointing, but everything happens for a reason.

I hope everything works out for you all and things look up in the near future. Cheers

Multiple CJOs rescinded by the new VP of flight ops without reasons given.

JohnBurke 03-01-2024 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by countyrd86 (Post 3775644)
It's hard to believe that Omni hours were down last year.

Never believe anything in an election year.

Never believe management during negotiations.

FlyAstarJets 03-02-2024 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 3775835)
Never believe anything in an election year.

Never believe management during negotiations.

^^^^THIS^^^^

Mr Rumbold 03-02-2024 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Mikeav8r (Post 3775811)
The March 25th 767 class just got downsized by a few as well. Disappointing, but everything happens for a reason.

I hope everything works out for you all and things look up in the near future. Cheers

I hope for that as well, for myself and for everyone.
is Omni likely to survive or should we be keeping our options open, not just for the legacy carriers but for more stable ACMI carriers? (Atlas and Kalitta *seem* stable.. maybe I'm wrong ? WGN and ATI don't seem stable at all.. National appears to be ok but works their pilots past their breaking point)

JohnBurke 03-02-2024 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by Overlander (Post 3775816)
Multiple CJOs rescinded by the new VP of flight ops without reasons given.

At least this guy didn't wait until they were new-hires within two hours of their checkride, before sending them packing.

One wonders how an operator like Omni is going to get anyone to show up for a class, if they keep pulling these stunts. Seems a bit of a reputation-killer.

Hopefully those who were given conditional job offers hadn't turned in their notices at their existing jobs.

Overlander 03-02-2024 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 3776020)
At least this guy didn't wait until they were new-hires within two hours of their checkride, before sending them packing.

One wonders how an operator like Omni is going to get anyone to show up for a class, if they keep pulling these stunts. Seems a bit of a reputation-killer.

Hopefully those who were given conditional job offers hadn't turned in their notices at their existing jobs.

I highly doubt they’re going to continue to get any applicants if even a CJO doesn’t get you into class. Some of these guys had months between interview and class dates.

Could’ve kept them in the pool or offered reasoning but as far as I’m yet aware there’s nothing.

Chilidawg 03-02-2024 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Overlander (Post 3775816)
Multiple CJOs rescinded by the new VP of flight ops without reasons given.


Originally Posted by Mikeav8r (Post 3775811)
The March 25th 767 class just got downsized by a few as well. Disappointing, but everything happens for a reason.

I hope everything works out for you all and things look up in the near future. Cheers

Yikes - my Feb 7 class date was changed to the Mar 25 date after I had already given notice at my last job. Finding out that the CJO was rescinded after a 7 week delay could be rough.

blackbox 03-02-2024 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 3776020)
At least this guy didn't wait until they were new-hires within two hours of their checkride, before sending them packing.

One wonders how an operator like Omni is going to get anyone to show up for a class, if they keep pulling these stunts. Seems a bit of a reputation-killer.

Hopefully those who were given conditional job offers hadn't turned in their notices at their existing jobs.

You know full well the person that made the decision above is still at Omni. Nothing to do with the new VP of Flt Ops or the old VP of Flt OPs. DR is hedging his bets that the those with CJOs will get cancelled, thus not needing new hires. The summer is comming and flying will be reduced just like it is every summer. Instead of plannin for the fall and being staffed, they'll just pay holdout/callout like always. The wonderful merry-go-round of Omni.

Pirate99 03-02-2024 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold (Post 3776006)
I hope for that as well, for myself and for everyone.
is Omni likely to survive or should we be keeping our options open, not just for the legacy carriers but for more stable ACMI carriers? (Atlas and Kalitta *seem* stable.. maybe I'm wrong ? WGN and ATI don't seem stable at all.. National appears to be ok but works their pilots past their breaking point)

Omni, under current management, is by any definition a train wreck, and not the shadow of its former self.

Considering the many opportunities available to pilots these days, applying to, or staying at Omni is very possible one of the worst career choices one could make.


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