Miami Air
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Miami Air International is one of the very few Part 121 Charter operators in the United States that one may make it a Career destination rather than a Step towards something else.
We are well run by industry professionals some of whom were line pilots here & some who still are. We survived 2008 & 2009 while many of our competitors bled completely dry, yet another example of fiscally responsible leadership at the top.
We currently happen to be the premier part 121 Charter operator in the United States operating B737-800's & soon to be phasing out the B737-400's for hopefully newer NG's or perhaps a surprise order for MAX Series for delivery later in the Decade. We are also anticipating our long awaitied renewed Contract for Pilots.
Comparing Miami Air to a Regional or to a Major Scheduled Carrier is really an apples to oranges comparison. Comparing it to other ACMI or on demand Pax/Freight Operators is more of an apples to apples comparison and yes Miami Air will win that comparison each time on many fronts.
Our Health Insurance and Retirement Benefits package is competitive among part 121 Charter operators as is our Compensation Scale for F/O's and Captains. The scheduled days off is great for planning one's life something unheard of in most of the Part 135 world.
Training and Safety is a huge plus here. You will receive excellent training both in class & in the Simulator. The company demands much from the Pilots they train but also gives each Pilot every available opportunity to succeed.
If some have been bypassed for training it's because there is alot more than manipulating the Flight Controls in being a Left Seat driver. Those the company has placed faith in have been given more than enough opportunities to move to and excel in the Left Seat.
Miami Air has a proactive rather than reactive Safety department always looking for ways to raise the bar and add yet another layer of protection in order to mitigate risk.
Miami Air is definitely a Career Option for those looking to fly Mainline Equip for a Part 121 Charter operator.
We are well run by industry professionals some of whom were line pilots here & some who still are. We survived 2008 & 2009 while many of our competitors bled completely dry, yet another example of fiscally responsible leadership at the top.
We currently happen to be the premier part 121 Charter operator in the United States operating B737-800's & soon to be phasing out the B737-400's for hopefully newer NG's or perhaps a surprise order for MAX Series for delivery later in the Decade. We are also anticipating our long awaitied renewed Contract for Pilots.
Comparing Miami Air to a Regional or to a Major Scheduled Carrier is really an apples to oranges comparison. Comparing it to other ACMI or on demand Pax/Freight Operators is more of an apples to apples comparison and yes Miami Air will win that comparison each time on many fronts.
Our Health Insurance and Retirement Benefits package is competitive among part 121 Charter operators as is our Compensation Scale for F/O's and Captains. The scheduled days off is great for planning one's life something unheard of in most of the Part 135 world.
Training and Safety is a huge plus here. You will receive excellent training both in class & in the Simulator. The company demands much from the Pilots they train but also gives each Pilot every available opportunity to succeed.
If some have been bypassed for training it's because there is alot more than manipulating the Flight Controls in being a Left Seat driver. Those the company has placed faith in have been given more than enough opportunities to move to and excel in the Left Seat.
Miami Air has a proactive rather than reactive Safety department always looking for ways to raise the bar and add yet another layer of protection in order to mitigate risk.
Miami Air is definitely a Career Option for those looking to fly Mainline Equip for a Part 121 Charter operator.
No one with a clean record and respectable resume should even consider this joke of an airline.
#192
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Sounds like someone is desperate for pilots. All you need to do to debunk this whole post is go over to the APC pay scales and compare for yourself. Most pay almost twice as much to start, have higher Captain rates and you'll fly heavy equipment instead of ragged out 737-400s.
Easy reality check that puts the lie to the rest of the poster's claims.
Easy reality check that puts the lie to the rest of the poster's claims.
#193
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Sounds like someone is desperate for pilots. All you need to do to debunk this whole post is go over to the APC pay scales and compare for yourself. Most pay almost twice as much to start, have higher Captain rates and you'll fly heavy equipment instead of ragged out 737-400s.
Easy reality check that puts the lie to the rest of the poster's claims.
Easy reality check that puts the lie to the rest of the poster's claims.
#194
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Joined: May 2012
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From: CA
Miami Air International is one of the very few Part 121 Charter operators in the United States that one may make it a Career destination rather than a Step towards something else.
We are well run by industry professionals some of whom were line pilots here & some who still are. We survived 2008 & 2009 while many of our competitors bled completely dry, yet another example of fiscally responsible leadership at the top.
We currently happen to be the premier part 121 Charter operator in the United States operating B737-800's & soon to be phasing out the B737-400's for hopefully newer NG's or perhaps a surprise order for MAX Series for delivery later in the Decade. We are also anticipating our long awaitied renewed Contract for Pilots.
Comparing Miami Air to a Regional or to a Major Scheduled Carrier is really an apples to oranges comparison. Comparing it to other ACMI or on demand Pax/Freight Operators is more of an apples to apples comparison and yes Miami Air will win that comparison each time on many fronts.
Our Health Insurance and Retirement Benefits package is competitive among part 121 Charter operators as is our Compensation Scale for F/O's and Captains. The scheduled days off is great for planning one's life something unheard of in most of the Part 135 world.
Training and Safety is a huge plus here. You will receive excellent training both in class & in the Simulator. The company demands much from the Pilots they train but also gives each Pilot every available opportunity to succeed.
If some have been bypassed for training it's because there is alot more than manipulating the Flight Controls in being a Left Seat driver. Those the company has placed faith in have been given more than enough opportunities to move to and excel in the Left Seat.
Miami Air has a proactive rather than reactive Safety department always looking for ways to raise the bar and add yet another layer of protection in order to mitigate risk.
Miami Air is definitely a Career Option for those looking to fly Mainline Equip for a Part 121 Charter operator.
We are well run by industry professionals some of whom were line pilots here & some who still are. We survived 2008 & 2009 while many of our competitors bled completely dry, yet another example of fiscally responsible leadership at the top.
We currently happen to be the premier part 121 Charter operator in the United States operating B737-800's & soon to be phasing out the B737-400's for hopefully newer NG's or perhaps a surprise order for MAX Series for delivery later in the Decade. We are also anticipating our long awaitied renewed Contract for Pilots.
Comparing Miami Air to a Regional or to a Major Scheduled Carrier is really an apples to oranges comparison. Comparing it to other ACMI or on demand Pax/Freight Operators is more of an apples to apples comparison and yes Miami Air will win that comparison each time on many fronts.
Our Health Insurance and Retirement Benefits package is competitive among part 121 Charter operators as is our Compensation Scale for F/O's and Captains. The scheduled days off is great for planning one's life something unheard of in most of the Part 135 world.
Training and Safety is a huge plus here. You will receive excellent training both in class & in the Simulator. The company demands much from the Pilots they train but also gives each Pilot every available opportunity to succeed.
If some have been bypassed for training it's because there is alot more than manipulating the Flight Controls in being a Left Seat driver. Those the company has placed faith in have been given more than enough opportunities to move to and excel in the Left Seat.
Miami Air has a proactive rather than reactive Safety department always looking for ways to raise the bar and add yet another layer of protection in order to mitigate risk.
Miami Air is definitely a Career Option for those looking to fly Mainline Equip for a Part 121 Charter operator.
BTW... On January 1, MAI had fewer than 60 pilots awarded lines. Since then, one Check Airman has left to go to FE, one CA is awaiting a class date and in the past week, 3 F/O's have successfully interviewed and are awaiting classes at other airlines.
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Hop A Jet is one of the very few On Demand Charter operators in the United States that one may make it a Career destination rather than a Step towards something else.
We are well run by industry professionals who were line pilots here 20+ years ago who do not micro-manage but manage by example, we survived 2008 & 2009 while many of our competitors bled completely dry, yet another example of fiscally responsible leadership at the top.
We currently happen to be the largest Commercial operator of Learjet 60XR's in the United States currently phasing out the Classics. Flying the Learjet 60XR and operating the Rockwell Collins Proline21 Avionics Suite while other operators still flying the previous generation Learjet 55 is def a big plus. Newer is Better!
Their Health Insurance and Retirement Benefits package is competitive in the Industry as is their Compensation and Cost of Living increases.
Training and Safety are Huge Perks here. You will receive excellent training both here throughout the year as well as at Simulator Training Center.
Additionally they have a proactive rather than reactive Safety department always looking for ways to raise the bar and add yet another layer of protection in order to mitigate risk.
Hop A Jet is definitely a Career Option!!
We are well run by industry professionals who were line pilots here 20+ years ago who do not micro-manage but manage by example, we survived 2008 & 2009 while many of our competitors bled completely dry, yet another example of fiscally responsible leadership at the top.
We currently happen to be the largest Commercial operator of Learjet 60XR's in the United States currently phasing out the Classics. Flying the Learjet 60XR and operating the Rockwell Collins Proline21 Avionics Suite while other operators still flying the previous generation Learjet 55 is def a big plus. Newer is Better!
Their Health Insurance and Retirement Benefits package is competitive in the Industry as is their Compensation and Cost of Living increases.
Training and Safety are Huge Perks here. You will receive excellent training both here throughout the year as well as at Simulator Training Center.
Additionally they have a proactive rather than reactive Safety department always looking for ways to raise the bar and add yet another layer of protection in order to mitigate risk.
Hop A Jet is definitely a Career Option!!
#197
OK, that's just some funny stuff. The same individual posted an almost identical "endorsement" for Hopajet. It comes across as PR BS written by a marketing department.
BTW... On January 1, MAI had fewer than 60 pilots awarded lines. Since then, one Check Airman has left to go to FE, one CA is awaiting a class date and in the past week, 3 F/O's have successfully interviewed and are awaiting classes at other airlines.
BTW... On January 1, MAI had fewer than 60 pilots awarded lines. Since then, one Check Airman has left to go to FE, one CA is awaiting a class date and in the past week, 3 F/O's have successfully interviewed and are awaiting classes at other airlines.
BTW does miami pay for required rest when on the road? Ie the 30/168?
At xtra they don't and there is no limit on how many you can be scheduled. I know guys getting 3 a week and not getting paid. Basically you'll never go over guarantee and you are required to work 18 days a month.
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Miami Air International is one of the very few Part 121 Charter operators in the United States that one may make it a Career destination rather than a Step towards something else.
About 100 or so pilots in the last decade disagree with you. They all left for better opportunities. And we only had on average about 75 pilots during that time period. If that turn over doesn't say anything, nothing will. (and the majority of that time no carriers were really hiring.. yet they still found ways to get out.)
We are well run by industry professionals some of whom were line pilots here & some who still are. We survived 2008 & 2009 while many of our competitors bled completely dry, yet another example of fiscally responsible leadership at the top.
Find me one employee or line pilot that would say "we are well run". Won't happen!
We currently happen to be the premier part 121 Charter operator in the United States operating B737-800's & soon to be phasing out the B737-400's for hopefully newer NG's or perhaps a surprise order for MAX Series for delivery later in the Decade. We are also anticipating our long awaitied renewed Contract for Pilots.
Exactly who designated us "premier"? I know we tell ourselves that (at least the company tells us that all the time), but it's based on no facts or actual supporting evidence that we are premier. I could give you a long list of reasons why we are NOT premier though... We are anticipating a renewed contract for us? It should have been here in 2008!!! We are way late... and I don't see anything yet! And I'm not holding my breath for anything good. They're probably asking for pay cuts to fund the training program now...
And the -400s going away just means more shrinking. We've been shrinking for the last 3-4 years and continue to do so. Promises of more NGs or MAX jets falls into the same promises of Bonus checks the last 5 years (you're dreaming).
Comparing Miami Air to a Regional or to a Major Scheduled Carrier is really an apples to oranges comparison. Comparing it to other ACMI or on demand Pax/Freight Operators is more of an apples to apples comparison and yes Miami Air will win that comparison each time on many fronts.
Actually... pilots fly airplanes. Pilots get paid to fly airplanes. Regional and Major carriers compensate their pilots more and require them to do less. Our list of responsibilities that the company gives us is huge. We wake up the airplane, coordinate with ground handling/catering/operations (etc), put planes to bed, play secretary/accountant, pay bills, etc. We do way more then most pilots in the industry and get compensated a fraction of what they get. But, go ahead and compare Miami Air to other charter carriers... lets take Eastern down the street as an example.... they compensate their pilots MORE then we get. Your statement has no facts. If we are so much better then the other ACMI carriers, why do our pilots leave for those other carriers? We never seem to get guys from those other ACMI carriers.... you think they are leaving to other ACMI carriers because it is worse off there?
Our Health Insurance and Retirement Benefits package is competitive among part 121 Charter operators as is our Compensation Scale for F/O's and Captains. The scheduled days off is great for planning one's life something unheard of in most of the Part 135 world.
So now you want to compare our schedule to that of a 135 operator? And no, our compensation is not competitive or even in the same ball park. Our yearly compensation is almost what the legacy carriers are paying out in profit sharing (not exactly, but you get my point). But even looking at carriers like Sun Country, we are so far behind it's not even funny.
Training and Safety is a huge plus here. You will receive excellent training both in class & in the Simulator. The company demands much from the Pilots they train but also gives each Pilot every available opportunity to succeed.
You mean our outsourced training?
If some have been bypassed for training it's because there is alot more than manipulating the Flight Controls in being a Left Seat driver. Those the company has placed faith in have been given more than enough opportunities to move to and excel in the Left Seat.
How many upgrades have we had in the last five years? As we shrink... we need less Captains!
Miami Air has a proactive rather than reactive Safety department always looking for ways to raise the bar and add yet another layer of protection in order to mitigate risk.
I wouldn't go that far. We put out a great image of that, but how many times have we almost lost crews in vans? One crew literally almost lost their lives in an accident (PSM)... but the company never made any changes, and continues to put crews in unsafe vans to save a dollar.
Miami Air is definitely a Career Option for those looking to fly Mainline Equip for a Part 121 Charter operator.
What I hear you saying... is the typical management sales pitch -which if everything above didn't give you away, then this line does. Management still thinks that pilots will come to fly the 737, regardless what the compensation is. Well, reality check- you're gonna be left with a handful of pilots that cannot leave because of their records/history... everyone else will pass and grab the better opportunities out there. The only pilots at Miami Air that are not aggressively looking to leave are those who are "stuck" for one reason or another. Those are the ones who are career pilots at Miami Air.
About 100 or so pilots in the last decade disagree with you. They all left for better opportunities. And we only had on average about 75 pilots during that time period. If that turn over doesn't say anything, nothing will. (and the majority of that time no carriers were really hiring.. yet they still found ways to get out.)
We are well run by industry professionals some of whom were line pilots here & some who still are. We survived 2008 & 2009 while many of our competitors bled completely dry, yet another example of fiscally responsible leadership at the top.
Find me one employee or line pilot that would say "we are well run". Won't happen!
We currently happen to be the premier part 121 Charter operator in the United States operating B737-800's & soon to be phasing out the B737-400's for hopefully newer NG's or perhaps a surprise order for MAX Series for delivery later in the Decade. We are also anticipating our long awaitied renewed Contract for Pilots.
Exactly who designated us "premier"? I know we tell ourselves that (at least the company tells us that all the time), but it's based on no facts or actual supporting evidence that we are premier. I could give you a long list of reasons why we are NOT premier though... We are anticipating a renewed contract for us? It should have been here in 2008!!! We are way late... and I don't see anything yet! And I'm not holding my breath for anything good. They're probably asking for pay cuts to fund the training program now...
And the -400s going away just means more shrinking. We've been shrinking for the last 3-4 years and continue to do so. Promises of more NGs or MAX jets falls into the same promises of Bonus checks the last 5 years (you're dreaming). Comparing Miami Air to a Regional or to a Major Scheduled Carrier is really an apples to oranges comparison. Comparing it to other ACMI or on demand Pax/Freight Operators is more of an apples to apples comparison and yes Miami Air will win that comparison each time on many fronts.
Actually... pilots fly airplanes. Pilots get paid to fly airplanes. Regional and Major carriers compensate their pilots more and require them to do less. Our list of responsibilities that the company gives us is huge. We wake up the airplane, coordinate with ground handling/catering/operations (etc), put planes to bed, play secretary/accountant, pay bills, etc. We do way more then most pilots in the industry and get compensated a fraction of what they get. But, go ahead and compare Miami Air to other charter carriers... lets take Eastern down the street as an example.... they compensate their pilots MORE then we get. Your statement has no facts. If we are so much better then the other ACMI carriers, why do our pilots leave for those other carriers? We never seem to get guys from those other ACMI carriers.... you think they are leaving to other ACMI carriers because it is worse off there?
Our Health Insurance and Retirement Benefits package is competitive among part 121 Charter operators as is our Compensation Scale for F/O's and Captains. The scheduled days off is great for planning one's life something unheard of in most of the Part 135 world.
So now you want to compare our schedule to that of a 135 operator? And no, our compensation is not competitive or even in the same ball park. Our yearly compensation is almost what the legacy carriers are paying out in profit sharing (not exactly, but you get my point). But even looking at carriers like Sun Country, we are so far behind it's not even funny.
Training and Safety is a huge plus here. You will receive excellent training both in class & in the Simulator. The company demands much from the Pilots they train but also gives each Pilot every available opportunity to succeed.
You mean our outsourced training?
If some have been bypassed for training it's because there is alot more than manipulating the Flight Controls in being a Left Seat driver. Those the company has placed faith in have been given more than enough opportunities to move to and excel in the Left Seat.
How many upgrades have we had in the last five years? As we shrink... we need less Captains!
Miami Air has a proactive rather than reactive Safety department always looking for ways to raise the bar and add yet another layer of protection in order to mitigate risk.
I wouldn't go that far. We put out a great image of that, but how many times have we almost lost crews in vans? One crew literally almost lost their lives in an accident (PSM)... but the company never made any changes, and continues to put crews in unsafe vans to save a dollar.
Miami Air is definitely a Career Option for those looking to fly Mainline Equip for a Part 121 Charter operator.
What I hear you saying... is the typical management sales pitch -which if everything above didn't give you away, then this line does. Management still thinks that pilots will come to fly the 737, regardless what the compensation is. Well, reality check- you're gonna be left with a handful of pilots that cannot leave because of their records/history... everyone else will pass and grab the better opportunities out there. The only pilots at Miami Air that are not aggressively looking to leave are those who are "stuck" for one reason or another. Those are the ones who are career pilots at Miami Air.
This is such a joke.... the biggest sales pitch full of lies and fake promises. Hopefully those looking at Miami Air do their homework and see what they are actually getting into.....
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