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04-27-2021, 09:36 AM

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MrIncredible

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Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation

Good luck as OO owns their 175s...

Not true. Ships 601-630 are United owned. The same ones were at ExpressJet before transferring them to Skywest last year

04-27-2021, 10:46 AM

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United doesn’t really own that many 175’s. I would think that it would be cheaper to keep them flying at large well established regionals than to move them to another airline. United is simply going to do what makes them the most money. The only way that I see them shifting 175’s to either Air Wisconsin or CommutAir is if they bid the flying cheaper than Mesa.

04-27-2021, 12:14 PM

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But how? 175 is maxed out per United’s Scope Clause. Unless United transfers 175s from Mesa or Skywest.

and because they were maxed out on the 175 side, the 550 was born.

Maybe they will get scope relief or shift the frames from one of the carriers whom they own the airplanes from. I have no idea but we do know that the 50 seaters are getting older every year

04-27-2021, 12:17 PM

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Not true. Ships 601-630 are United owned. The same ones were at ExpressJet before transferring them to Skywest last year

Those were nice airplanes too. Mesa also floated the next thirty frame deal but I’m not sure if United is paying the note on them after some kind of news broke about who is paying for what. I’m sure someone knows the details. I don’t think United will allow another one of it’s regionals to go down

04-27-2021, 12:28 PM

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I don’t think United will allow another one of it’s regionals to go down

There were/are somewhere north of 300 of the 50 seat rj’s flying around. Since scope is maxed out and there are no more 70/76 seat aircraft available, how does United avoid letting regionals go if they decided to retire the single class 50 seaters over the next few years? Two of their regionals only operate 50 seaters, and SkyWest operates a bunch as well. If a fleet is phased out, those employed operating or supporting them will unfortunately most likely be phased out too.

04-27-2021, 03:43 PM

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IIRC on one of the town halls RH talked about looking into 175s in the future (6 years down line IIRC) but wondering if it’s only lip service or a real strategy.

04-27-2021, 04:46 PM

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I don’t think United will allow another one of it’s regionals to go down

Lol.....as if United didn’t CHOOSE to shut down TSA and XJT. The tail does not wag the dog.

04-27-2021, 06:49 PM

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DK why United shut down TSA but as for XJT it was most likely the very senior lifers that were a payroll liability.

04-27-2021, 07:45 PM

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DK why United shut down TSA but as for XJT it was most likely the very senior lifers that were a payroll liability.

TSA was pre-Covid and was most likely just a victim of consolidation. XJT died because c5 is cheaper. Period.

04-27-2021, 09:20 PM

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TSA was pre-Covid and was most likely just a victim of consolidation. XJT died because c5 is cheaper. Period.

What are the odds of UAL shuttering C5 for OO or MESA due to them operating 175s cheaply? At least give us a chance and dont feed us to the wolves. (OO MESA)