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#3561
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 296
It is hard to describe how bad morale is here right now compared to what it was just 9 months ago. People looking at making lateral moves speaks volumes. The only transparency that exists is for pay and it works out decently. The payroll administrator seems to do his best to ensure accuracy but isn't always correct.
Among other things, there is zero transparency on the CPP and nobody knows what to expect. For round 2 of Hogan exams next year, will the senior people get into the program and push down those already in the program?
The company purposefully hides information about the flow of aircraft and scheduling tries to screw pilots at every turn. The extent to which pilots are required to "know the contract" and fight for everything is asinine. People are tired of fighting. Tired of being junior manned into working on days off. Tired of missing out on nights home with their families over unplanned company BS. Everything is adversarial now. There isn't enough muscle in scheduling or pilot staffing to keep this train wreck going. Why on earth would anyone want to work in scheduling? There simply aren't enough of them to handle the amount of pilots on property.
Reserve rules are virtually non-existent. They used to allow people to "trade" hotel rooms and donate them to one another which had a positive impact on morale. Last I knew, that didn't happen any more. They try to offer 300% pay for people to pick up open time and I'm not sure that is enough to do the trick.
I get the impression that the Union is inundated with complaints and has trouble keeping up with the pilot group growth. Hopefully things get revamped on that front here soon.
Among other things, there is zero transparency on the CPP and nobody knows what to expect. For round 2 of Hogan exams next year, will the senior people get into the program and push down those already in the program?
The company purposefully hides information about the flow of aircraft and scheduling tries to screw pilots at every turn. The extent to which pilots are required to "know the contract" and fight for everything is asinine. People are tired of fighting. Tired of being junior manned into working on days off. Tired of missing out on nights home with their families over unplanned company BS. Everything is adversarial now. There isn't enough muscle in scheduling or pilot staffing to keep this train wreck going. Why on earth would anyone want to work in scheduling? There simply aren't enough of them to handle the amount of pilots on property.
Reserve rules are virtually non-existent. They used to allow people to "trade" hotel rooms and donate them to one another which had a positive impact on morale. Last I knew, that didn't happen any more. They try to offer 300% pay for people to pick up open time and I'm not sure that is enough to do the trick.
I get the impression that the Union is inundated with complaints and has trouble keeping up with the pilot group growth. Hopefully things get revamped on that front here soon.
At this point we are beyond calling it growing pains. That's just an excuse to pay you less and treat you poorly. Any airline will try to get by while offering you as little as possible. So it's very frustrating to hear from fellow pilots "well they treated us good before so we don't need a good contract". Have fun with 100% airport standby reserve, and good luck with your next overnight hotel reservation or being allowed to go home on the last day of your next trip. I'm glad at least some people are finally starting to open their eyes.
#3563
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 918
This. One of many proof that things need to change. After one year burns off, I might looking into lateral too (if there is no improvement). Yes it might sound stupid leaving behind 1 year of seniority....but if I am feeling willing to give up that, then the question becomes why?
#3564
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 296
It's unfortunate that morale is so low. Hopefully for now the quick upgrades are worth it to some people. Things can't continue like this for long if the higher ups want this place to keep growing. If it does continue, at least the decision will be easier. But at least finish a year and secure the bonus.
#3565
On Reserve
Joined APC: Oct 2012
Posts: 14
This. One of many proof that things need to change. After one year burns off, I might looking into lateral too (if there is no improvement). Yes it might sound stupid leaving behind 1 year of seniority....but if I am feeling willing to give up that, then the question becomes why?
#3567
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 90
It is hard to describe how bad morale is here right now compared to what it was just 9 months ago. People looking at making lateral moves speaks volumes. The only transparency that exists is for pay and it works out decently. The payroll administrator seems to do his best to ensure accuracy but isn't always correct.
Among other things, there is zero transparency on the CPP and nobody knows what to expect. For round 2 of Hogan exams next year, will the senior people get into the program and push down those already in the program?
The company purposefully hides information about the flow of aircraft and scheduling tries to screw pilots at every turn. The extent to which pilots are required to "know the contract" and fight for everything is asinine. People are tired of fighting. Tired of being junior manned into working on days off. Tired of missing out on nights home with their families over unplanned company BS. Everything is adversarial now. There isn't enough muscle in scheduling or pilot staffing to keep this train wreck going. Why on earth would anyone want to work in scheduling? There simply aren't enough of them to handle the amount of pilots on property.
Reserve rules are virtually non-existent. They used to allow people to "trade" hotel rooms and donate them to one another which had a positive impact on morale. Last I knew, that didn't happen any more. They try to offer 300% pay for people to pick up open time and I'm not sure that is enough to do the trick.
I get the impression that the Union is inundated with complaints and has trouble keeping up with the pilot group growth. Hopefully things get revamped on that front here soon.
Among other things, there is zero transparency on the CPP and nobody knows what to expect. For round 2 of Hogan exams next year, will the senior people get into the program and push down those already in the program?
The company purposefully hides information about the flow of aircraft and scheduling tries to screw pilots at every turn. The extent to which pilots are required to "know the contract" and fight for everything is asinine. People are tired of fighting. Tired of being junior manned into working on days off. Tired of missing out on nights home with their families over unplanned company BS. Everything is adversarial now. There isn't enough muscle in scheduling or pilot staffing to keep this train wreck going. Why on earth would anyone want to work in scheduling? There simply aren't enough of them to handle the amount of pilots on property.
Reserve rules are virtually non-existent. They used to allow people to "trade" hotel rooms and donate them to one another which had a positive impact on morale. Last I knew, that didn't happen any more. They try to offer 300% pay for people to pick up open time and I'm not sure that is enough to do the trick.
I get the impression that the Union is inundated with complaints and has trouble keeping up with the pilot group growth. Hopefully things get revamped on that front here soon.
Morale is low because people come here expecting mainline rules and lifestyle. This is a regional. Those who are from other regionals understand. Those considering leaving C5 for another regional are in for a rude awakening if they do leave. It's best to keep the great seniority as the company continues to grow.
#3568
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,311
The info given on the CPP clearly describes the 3 tiers of CPP seniority. If you have any concerns please contact your ALPA CPP representative. If you don't know who that is. Ask.
Morale is low because people come here expecting mainline rules and lifestyle. This is a regional. Those who are from other regionals understand. Those considering leaving C5 for another regional are in for a rude awakening if they do leave. It's best to keep the great seniority as the company continues to grow.
Morale is low because people come here expecting mainline rules and lifestyle. This is a regional. Those who are from other regionals understand. Those considering leaving C5 for another regional are in for a rude awakening if they do leave. It's best to keep the great seniority as the company continues to grow.
The work rules here are below most other regionals.
No one is expecting mainline rules and lifestyles.
Morale is low because little to no communication, abuse on the line, no relief in sight, no new hires, can't keep up with staffing....
#3569
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,086
How can you not know how to start an APu on the 145?
#3570
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2011
Position: DHC-8 100/300
Posts: 843
I've heard this from my friends over there. Very few people don't know what the regionals are like in this day and age but it sounds like the work rules over there are quite sub-par. Keep up the good fight and hopefully the C5 management makes some meaningful changes to help you all out
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