Whoop

They also were electronically available since early-mid January.

PhantomHawk

Probably only for current employees. Former employees most likely don’t have access. Jacburn is right....postmarked by 31st is legal. Slightly obnoxious to wait until then.....but whatever.

c402fr8er

No, ADP site is independent of the company.

When I started here and logged back in, my old pay stubs from two employers ago, who also used ADP, were still available.

MGMTiswatchingU

x2..........ADP is still accessible even when you leave an employer for years. CommutAir does not own ADP. Therefore, if hot potato wanted his W2 so bad he could easily print it off the ADP website; much better use of his internet rather than use it to complain. ADP hot potato not APC lol

Red23

CommutAir is a great airline for those looking for a part 121 experience, that is, 121 checkride experience. For your initial training you won't be given study materials or paper cockpits beforehand. Then when you get there, you will never be given a systems manual. You will eventually be given an AOM and GOM. However, the GOM primarily references the Dash 8 and the AOM will reference the 145LR and 145XR without making delineations between the two. CommutAir only flies the XR. Have fun memorizing! Once you get to your oral, you will have a wonderful experience of not being sure what you're supposed to know, realizing you memorized incorrect information from the AOM, and you will fail miserably. Back to training for you! While you're back in the windowless, dark room listening to a 70 year old man read powerpoint slides that sounds like the teacher in Charlie Brown, you'll realize that your instructor has never flown the 145 before nor has he ever flown at CommutAir. You will ask other pilots what they have studied and they will tell you to study ExpressJet materials called Outer Marker. You'll show up to your oral again with all the information you need to pass. Congratulations! You survived CommutAir's training program by (1) not listening to a word your instructor says, (2) ignoring the majority of the information provided to you by CommutAir, and (3) utilizing ExpressJet's training material. Not only do you have a fresh ATP and type rating, you also have two 121 checkride experiences and a great story for those mainline TMAAT you failed questions. Take that people with perfect PRIAs.

JediCheese

While more true than I would like to admit, they do give you a cockpit poster. Also they do give you the information you need to pass the checkride, they just don't feed you a gouge to memorize and expect you to study the material and know what you are doing.

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MikeC5

When I went through we were not given posters until someone in my systems class asked. We got them three days later. I doubt they would have given them to us otherwise.
I agree with most of the rest. It’s just really bad how they “prepare” you. Once on the line it only gets worse.
Still actively looking for better employment just don’t want to go to another regional, but don’t blame anyone that does.

MGMTiswatchingU

1 thing I must mention is that most of the instructors that fly the line and have great experience on the 145 is at CVG, STL and PHX (we got probably 2 that teach ground thats great also, probably wouldnt count the old man in that 2). They want to teach sim not ground (understandable). Therefore, most new hires get the old man for systems.

There need to be improvements on the ground school part of training. New hires are showing up to sim not knowing what the sim instructors expect them to know. Problem is, when they show up there they have 4 days before the oral. The old guy might know some stuff but it would be much better if a line instructor teach systems.

I will bring it to the next mgmt meeting. But currently I think there are some instructors in the ground school trying to fix that gap.

MGMTiswatchingU

Also, while you might not get a hardcopy systems manual, we provide the link on the board for access to the PDF file for a softcopy systems manual. Unless you prefer hardcopy, download it to ur ipad/tablet or print out the pages you want to remember.

Later this year, everything will be on company issued ipad anyway so...

the apprentice

Are you recommending that we downloaded the system manual onto the iPad that we have not been issued yet by the company? Again management is clueless.