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02-14-2022 | 10:37 AM
#21
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If one is unable to get of this environment when there are lots of options that are greater than a regional (ACMIs and LCCs) as a lifer. I think I rather be on one of those seniority list during a downturn than trying to maintain lifer status at C5 or any regional for the matter.
02-14-2022 | 02:10 PM
#22
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The operational model of C5 is not designed to have a senior pilot group. Although the new pay could be a little higher the allegedly proposed improvements to the work rules should balance it all out.
If the contract doesn't pass after the first round, this would potential mean an annual loss of 25% of my income to account for renegotiations etc. I'm hoping to see a retention bonus for captains.
If the contract doesn't pass after the first round, this would potential mean an annual loss of 25% of my income to account for renegotiations etc. I'm hoping to see a retention bonus for captains.
02-14-2022 | 02:44 PM
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From: Captain for Skyhawks
The operational model of C5 is not designed to have a senior pilot group. Although the new pay could be a little higher the allegedly proposed improvements to the work rules should balance it all out.
If the contract doesn't pass after the first round, this would potential mean an annual loss of 25% of my income to account for renegotiations etc. I'm hoping to see a retention bonus for captains.
If the contract doesn't pass after the first round, this would potential mean an annual loss of 25% of my income to account for renegotiations etc. I'm hoping to see a retention bonus for captains.
That’s what direct entry Captain bonuses are for. Go to PSA, skywest, or even republic can’t staff captains so you could bid CA in new hire training and make $90 an hour within 8 months.
02-14-2022 | 03:40 PM
#24
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I'm talking about retention bonuses for those that have been here for a few years, not sign on bonuses for new direct entries.
02-14-2022 | 03:48 PM
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Those bonuses are based on UA giving us money as seeing fit, they openly said they aren’t focusing on the bonus until the contract passes,
That’s step one, solve the issue at hand, they’ll then refocus on longevity after the contract is passed
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02-20-2022 | 04:50 AM
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This mentality doesn’t stop at the regionals. Guys at legacies have it too for some reason. Getting your time and getting out is a nice sentiment, until the person stuck holding the bag in a downturn is you. Or worse, bombing your first big interview awaiting another call. The problem with your thinking is betting on best case scenario. I’m a plan for the worst kinda guy, and I also think about the people after me who haven’t been hired yet. It’s a regional contract that God only knows when will get done again. You want to take marginal gains without seeing the whole TA and a few extra bucks only to STILL be at the bottom in nearly every facet of money and QOL within a FFD contract. Short sighted thinking.
02-20-2022 | 05:47 AM
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This mentality doesn’t stop at the regionals. Guys at legacies have it too for some reason. Getting your time and getting out is a nice sentiment, until the person stuck holding the bag in a downturn is you. Or worse, bombing your first big interview awaiting another call. The problem with your thinking is betting on best case scenario. I’m a plan for the worst kinda guy, and I also think about the people after me who haven’t been hired yet. It’s a regional contract that God only knows when will get done again. You want to take marginal gains without seeing the whole TA and a few extra bucks only to STILL be at the bottom in nearly every facet of money and QOL within a FFD contract. Short sighted thinking.
I hope for the day when there isn't a huge disparity between regional and national airline compensation packages. I am not sure you get there with one pattern bargaining cycle though. Ideally we eliminate the contract carrier model entirely but that will take more solidarity than we have in my opinion.
Hopefully Mesa can outdo us and set the stage for whoever is next. That's how pattern bargaining actually works.
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