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03-23-2016, 06:43 AM
#1903
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Originally Posted by 2isclear
From what I know, about 30% of pilots did not get by the hogan. Of the 70% that got through the hogan, 50% are making it through the face to face. The percentage of new hires getting accepted is higher, about 60%. Last I knew, new hires get to do face to face no matter how they do on the hogan.
Denying a large percent of guys who would be eligible to flow in the next 2-3 years, while accepting new hires, that won't flow for at least 5, sounds like a winning strategy...for United. Same game, different carrot.
03-23-2016, 08:50 AM
#1904
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Originally Posted by ArcherDvr
I heard of the "old timers" interviewing, it was around 30% or less being selected. I'm curious to see the percentage of new hires getting on.
Denying a large percent of guys who would be eligible to flow in the next 2-3 years, while accepting new hires, that won't flow for at least 5, sounds like a winning strategy...for United. Same game, different carrot.
Denying a large percent of guys who would be eligible to flow in the next 2-3 years, while accepting new hires, that won't flow for at least 5, sounds like a winning strategy...for United. Same game, different carrot.
5 years for a new hire is a little, exaggerated if you have the time to upgrade. This is especially true when people are upgrading out of ground school. If you are fresh out of CFI world, 5 years is nothing, to wait for a major airline!
03-23-2016, 10:30 AM
#1905
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Originally Posted by MitsubishiPilot
What do you mean by "old timers"? If you are talking about the incumbent, then that percentage is around 40-45%. While not a great percentage, many can re-interview in a year. For new-hires that means a faster flow, unfortunately at the expense of great individuals. There are individuals who got turned down, which I would trust my life with and have a great time spending a 4-day with. It is just the luck of the game and how United wants to run this.
5 years for a new hire is a little, exaggerated if you have the time to upgrade. This is especially true when people are upgrading out of ground school. If you are fresh out of CFI world, 5 years is nothing, to wait for a major airline!
5 years for a new hire is a little, exaggerated if you have the time to upgrade. This is especially true when people are upgrading out of ground school. If you are fresh out of CFI world, 5 years is nothing, to wait for a major airline!
03-23-2016, 11:29 AM
#1906
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CPP interview
personally, I kind of agree with some of the posts regarding UAL hiring new hires over the seniors already at Commut Air. I interviewed for the CPP program at United in Denver last month and got turned down. Now I'm not saying, I was the best candidate, but yes I am very high in seniority with C5 and a fresh Captain. I prepared very well using the cage consulting and the questions I was asked at the interview were right from the interview prep, and I felt I did very good. I have a clean record as well. But I got turned down too. And last week the group that interviewed I know 3 very good pilots in our pilot group who anyone would luv to have in the deck, got turned down. So personally, I am not saying they have a certain number of people they want from C5 in via this program but personally, it was surprising and shocking of how many quality pilots are being turned down by UAL. Once again, could be a agreement between C5 and UAL, only God knows.
03-23-2016, 11:40 AM
#1907
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Originally Posted by ArcherDvr
That's the word I was looking for, incumbent. I heard 13 interviewed this last time and 2 or 3 were selected. 12 the time before and about the same number selected. If those numbers are incorrect fine. As for re-interviewing in a year, oh great, they earned another year at the regionals while new hires get United seniority numbers before them. 5 years exaggerated? 5 years, maybe, just maybe if things stay the same, or they keep passing up the incumbents.
Of course they're not going to take many people , they're not going to cannabalize their feed. Doesn't everyone see the purpose of the interview is to keep people flying United s 50 seat feed while they wind it down over the next 2- 3 years? If they didn't announce something they know they can't staff the feed they need without increasing pay which they don't want to do obviously, because that's the whole reason it was outsourced to regionals in the first place. new hires going there are getting the wool over the eyes treatment.
03-23-2016, 11:55 AM
#1908
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Originally Posted by ilsbird
personally, I kind of agree with some of the posts regarding UAL hiring new hires over the seniors already at Commut Air. I interviewed for the CPP program at United in Denver last month and got turned down. Now I'm not saying, I was the best candidate, but yes I am very high in seniority with C5 and a fresh Captain. I prepared very well using the cage consulting and the questions I was asked at the interview were right from the interview prep, and I felt I did very good. I have a clean record as well. But I got turned down too. And last week the group that interviewed I know 3 very good pilots in our pilot group who anyone would luv to have in the deck, got turned down. So personally, I am not saying they have a certain number of people they want from C5 in via this program but personally, it was surprising and shocking of how many quality pilots are being turned down by UAL. Once again, could be a agreement between C5 and UAL, only God knows.
One key topic you hit on is transparency; there is little to none between the employees and C5/United. It is United's program and they have every right to do what they want. Being in limbo with little direction is an uncomfortable feeling, to say the least.
Originally Posted by ArcherDvr
That's the word I was looking for, incumbent. I heard 13 interviewed this last time and 2 or 3 were selected. 12 the time before and about the same number selected. If those numbers are incorrect fine. As for re-interviewing in a year, oh great, they earned another year at the regionals while new hires get United seniority numbers before them. 5 years exaggerated? 5 years, maybe, just maybe if things stay the same, or they keep passing up the incumbents.
03-23-2016, 12:28 PM
#1909
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When will the first CPP start training at United? Does a guy who was already a commutair captain have to acquire 1000 more hours of Commutair time before getting a class date? Will they receive a hire date before they start class at United?
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