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Old 03-19-2018, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by flydiamond View Post
To elaborate, the Delta Connection Senior Vice President is now the Endeavor CEO as of about 2 months ago and has not been quiet in saying 3 regionals while growing Endeavor from 30% of the DC feed to 45%. Adding GoJet and Compass’ airplanes to Endeavor (possibly converting 700s to 175SCs) would get them there, and we’re already starting to see overlap with Skywest moving into LGA in May.

I’d be cautious about going to a regional that only flies 10% of the DC feed, be it GoJet or Compass. It’s very risky as Delta will just transfer the planes, not the pilots. Just like they did at ASA.
And who will fly them???

Most of the Legacy ASA guys are ending up at DL, probably a win win for Compass people anyways...
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Old 03-19-2018, 12:44 PM
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And who will fly them???
Exactly right
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Old 03-19-2018, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by flydiamond View Post
To elaborate, the Delta Connection Senior Vice President is now the Endeavor CEO as of about 2 months ago and has not been quiet in saying 3 regionals while growing Endeavor from 30% of the DC feed to 45%. Adding GoJet and Compass’ airplanes to Endeavor (possibly converting 700s to 175SCs) would get them there, and we’re already starting to see overlap with Skywest moving into LGA in May.

I’d be cautious about going to a regional that only flies 10% of the DC feed, be it GoJet or Compass. It’s very risky as Delta will just transfer the planes, not the pilots. Just like they did at ASA.
We are hearing the same thing at RPA. The 3 regionals as stated. The only difference is that we are getting the 175's and Endeavour is getting the 700's. There's definitely something in the works on our end right now.

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Old 03-19-2018, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Beechking90 View Post
We are hearing the same thing at RPA. The 3 regionals as stated. The only difference is that we are getting the 175's and Endeavour is getting the 700's. There's definitely something in the works on our end right now.

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Old 03-19-2018, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverFlexTO View Post
And who will fly them???

Most of the Legacy ASA guys are ending up at DL, probably a win win for Compass people anyways...
All the pilots who lose their jobs as the planes are transferred will fly the jets. So they'll fly the same plane in a new uniform on a different seniority list.
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Old 03-19-2018, 04:33 PM
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All the pilots who lose their jobs as the planes are transferred will fly the jets. So they'll fly the same plane in a new uniform on a different seniority list.
if mamma D wants those planes elsewhere now, that would take time. Lots and lots of time. And money. It's not a quick and easy thing to do to bring on a bunch of airplanes, develop a training program, and and send through initial 5 or 600 pilots.

Compass has all of that already in place. I'm sure if we merged people would blast out of here. A lot even, but they'd not even come close to having to hire and train a whole new Cadre of crews.
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Old 03-19-2018, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Poser765 View Post
if mamma D wants those planes elsewhere now, that would take time. Lots and lots of time. And money. It's not a quick and easy thing to do to bring on a bunch of airplanes, develop a training program, and and send through initial 5 or 600 pilots.

Compass has all of that already in place. I'm sure if we merged people would blast out of here. A lot even, but they'd not even come close to having to hire and train a whole new Cadre of crews.
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Old 03-19-2018, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Poser765 View Post
if mamma D wants those planes elsewhere now, that would take time. Lots and lots of time. And money. It's not a quick and easy thing to do to bring on a bunch of airplanes, develop a training program, and and send through initial 5 or 600 pilots.

Compass has all of that already in place. I'm sure if we merged people would blast out of here. A lot even, but they'd not even come close to having to hire and train a whole new Cadre of crews.
Well the word is 9E has already started training people on the Ejet to develop their program.

So yes it takes time, but if they have started now, maybe it is designed to be ready for 2020.
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Old 03-19-2018, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Poser765 View Post
if mamma D wants those planes elsewhere now, that would take time. Lots and lots of time. And money. It's not a quick and easy thing to do to bring on a bunch of airplanes, develop a training program, and and send through initial 5 or 600 pilots.

Compass has all of that already in place. I'm sure if we merged people would blast out of here. A lot even, but they'd not even come close to having to hire and train a whole new Cadre of crews.
I would guess that the ASA between Hulas and Delta would have legal terms in regards to a systematic wind down if Delta decided not to extend the contract. If Delta decides to reassign that flying they are not going to receive all 36 airplanes, or however many birds of Delta color you have in one day. How did it work for Republic when those 6 birds went over there? And how is the transfer of ExpessJet 700/900’s going? Delta says 3 regionals. One way or another I’m pretty confident that’s what’ll happen. And as we’ve seen many times before, pilots will follow the planes and quick upgrades.
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Old 03-19-2018, 08:24 PM
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The CPA for those 6 was up. The CPA for the remainder of the planes were operating is not until 2020.
I understand that, and I didn’t state otherwise. But that makes sense when Delta says no later than the fall of next year if they can’t reach an agreement for an early termination of the CPA. I would imagine that we're talking about 18 months of profit being the selling point? Anything less than that and Hulas will probably just say, no thanks. I’ll just wait until the end. If Delta waits until the end, all it costs them is time. Either way, Delta gets the birds back
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