Fpmx772

135 lines in lax. Seems lower than last year, no?


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"Do not bid pairing length or pairing ID on date on the same layer with trip mix in a work block or with commutable work block. If you do, the work block bids will be ignored.

You can bid pairing ID and commutable work block on the same layer, which will create work blocks that utilize the pairings specified (the pairings need to fulfill the report and release requirements stated in the commutable bid)."

Just got this in the PBS guide, is it just me or do these two statements contradict eachother? Trying to bid specific pairings but allow the system to throw some stuff in to complete the month,

Slowhawk

I show PBS website is down, all of info.compass is down

WillFlyForSpam

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/envoy-airlines/117303-mythical-lax-base.html#post2689309


Does anyone think the ground crews will finally have headsets when Envoy starts an LAX base?

DiamondDriver

Assuming the worst happens, and because everything has been so quiet over here on the CPZ board. Lets say we do end up losing all of the flying. Ignoring all the options of what could happen, Republic buying us etc, what is the thinking for the guys coming here for the final classes of 2018. It seems like the highest risk / reward choice to come here, but reasonably, someone coming here in November will hit the line in say ?March? They will get to fly a really good amount, for at least 5-6 months then would have to go somewhere else.

But by that point you would have a few hundred hours and the 175 rating.

All the 175 operators would be drooling over the trained 175 pilots to add to their seniority list...I think.

So besides being at the bottom of another seniority list...really...what is the risk?

Slowhawk

For what it’s worth, I came here at the very end of 2016 thinking cpz was “high risk, high reward”

Well 2 years in and I deeply regret it. If I was applying to regionals I wouldn’t even consider compass right now. IMHO, we are all going to get very bad news next year. I hope I’m wrong, but if I could do it again I’d say job security is more impartant than shaving 6 months off an upgrade time at another regional

Taco280AI

I'll just leave this here

Excargodog

Seriously? I think you've got it nailed. Delta is buying a bunch of A220s but they seem to be looking at putting them on the East Coast routes:


https://thepointsguy.com/news/first-delta-a220-routes/


That actually would constitute somewhat of a threat to Endeavor, but will scarcely compete with Compass. What will happen to the West coast flying? Well, eventually I know the Delta pilots would like to take back scope altogether. What will happen to Compass? Who knows.



EVERY SINGLE CONTRACT HAS A TERMINATION DATE. I suppose it's entirely possible that Delta will tell Endeavor to move out West, but it would probably be cheaper to use the existing infrastructure we already have - especially if they were ultimately planning on replacing it with A220s or E-2s anyway. Perhaps Delta will extend the contract, perhaps they won't. It is highly unlikely - even if they decide not to renew - they will simply terminate it on its last day. More probably they would draw it down three or six aircraft a month over a year or six months.



As soon as they made their intentions to terminate clear, I imagine Compass management would be doing their utmost to find additional flying, because the AA flying contract goes to 2022 I believe, and the last thing that management would want would be the sort of chaos that would ensue with senior people on the Delta side bumping junior people on the AA side. Furloughs inevitably result in the average salary being paid going higher as the more junior people are eliminated, and nobody in management wants the overhead increased like that. So yeah, if Delta says it's not going to renew they will be looking hard for new business. And that's the same for Republic, Skywest, Mesa, ...you name it.



But yeah, if it happened and you had to go somewhere else with a brand new Embraer 170/190 type rating and 500 hrs of SIC time it isn't like you wouldn't be welcomed. In the meantime at least you would have been acquiring those hours where you want to be.



Now having said that, I understand why Slowhawk feels the way he does, I have friends at Horizon that feel the same way. They got hired, went to reserve, and now are going to be staying there for a LONG time, just like Slowhawk did at Compass because of the hiring freeze. Worse yet, he got min pay (at a time when min pay was less) and didn't acquire hours at a rate that would have better helped along his career progression. The guys hired since September of last year got a bonus he didn't get, more pay than he got, and have pretty much been on the fast track at getting hours.



But everyone's experience is going to be different. The whole regional industry is at the whim of things that none of us can control. That's just a fact. No contract lasts forever and even being a wholly owned doesn't protect you - Compass WAS a wholly owned until it got sold by Delta. There are no sure things in the regionals.



You gotta decide what's right for you. But that's pretty much the same wherever you go. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes your airline goes into bankruptcy and you lose the pension you thought you already had - like the Delta mainline guys. Remember Braniff? Pan American? TWA? Even once you hit the bigtime the bigtime operator you have your seniority with can go Tango Uniform and you are looking for a job.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

The only absolutely safe course of action is to not play at all. But then, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

VIRotate

Very well said. Honestly I’ve had my ups and downs here. 2016 hire and upgraded in just over two years. Actually it was a race to get my 1000 hours. In the end, things haven’t been bad at all here.

Slowhawk

Oh god, what have I done. Important*

Hahaha I remember five months ago you were an unhappy camper. Now it’s my turn been here 2 years and still need another 500h to upgrade, just in time for them to freeze upgrades as we downsize

I say that with sarcasm because I know there are people on their third regional reading this, unpacking their violins to play me a sad little song for my little pity party

And Excargo, I usually disagree with you but that was well said. I think I should clarify I’m not so much whining as warning.