Conspiracy theories...
11-09-2018 | 07:24 PM
#121
I Pass the Butter
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I disagree.
As a PHX based pilot I love the PHX base. I love the crews here, I don't mind the trips, even when they are unproductive, because I get to drive to work, park in the terminal parking garage, and walk a few hundred feet to the departure gate.
I love that whenever I request runway 8/26 I have only been told no once, I love that I have met and flown with almost every pilot and flight attendant in the base, and I love that I fly the E175, even when the APU, Bleeds, Seat 3C, 4D, and 20F and forward coffee pot don't work.
The best advice I have for any new hire or someone considering it here is much like BLS has said - it is what you make of it. Does it suck when the APU doesn't work? Yeah but I have that checklist memorized by heart now and life goes on. Are there pilots here that a lot of people complain about? Yeah, but I go into every trip with a positive attitude and open mind and wouldn't you know it that I get along with every pilot I have flown with so far - and that includes the LCA that a lot of guys don't like in PHX, and even the recent SEA transfer.
If you find that certain pilots on here seem to be constantly complaining and negative then you should realize that they're probably not a good source of info.
Who cares if the base doesn't make sense?! It makes a hell of a lot of sense to me because I get to drive to work and not commute time zones which others on here apparently enjoy doing.
Truthfully - the worst part about PHX is an overweight Mr. Belvudere look alike that has a **** poor attitude and wears a grey Delta vest that's two sizes too small. He refuses to smile, and takes it upon himself to be the worst gate agent at all of Delta. Nothing pleases me more than flashing the biggest **** eating grin every time I see his miserable face.
As a PHX based pilot I love the PHX base. I love the crews here, I don't mind the trips, even when they are unproductive, because I get to drive to work, park in the terminal parking garage, and walk a few hundred feet to the departure gate.
I love that whenever I request runway 8/26 I have only been told no once, I love that I have met and flown with almost every pilot and flight attendant in the base, and I love that I fly the E175, even when the APU, Bleeds, Seat 3C, 4D, and 20F and forward coffee pot don't work.
The best advice I have for any new hire or someone considering it here is much like BLS has said - it is what you make of it. Does it suck when the APU doesn't work? Yeah but I have that checklist memorized by heart now and life goes on. Are there pilots here that a lot of people complain about? Yeah, but I go into every trip with a positive attitude and open mind and wouldn't you know it that I get along with every pilot I have flown with so far - and that includes the LCA that a lot of guys don't like in PHX, and even the recent SEA transfer.
If you find that certain pilots on here seem to be constantly complaining and negative then you should realize that they're probably not a good source of info.
Who cares if the base doesn't make sense?! It makes a hell of a lot of sense to me because I get to drive to work and not commute time zones which others on here apparently enjoy doing.
Truthfully - the worst part about PHX is an overweight Mr. Belvudere look alike that has a **** poor attitude and wears a grey Delta vest that's two sizes too small. He refuses to smile, and takes it upon himself to be the worst gate agent at all of Delta. Nothing pleases me more than flashing the biggest **** eating grin every time I see his miserable face.
Eh the way I see it:
Live in PHX, PHX based:
Cons
Very slim pickings on trips, few reserve guys so line holders are more likely to be reassigned, average trip credit is 4:00-4:30 per day meaning 11/12 days off per month, maybe 13/14 if you’re lucky. Every trip is delta so every day you either wake up at 4 to start your morning with FLT CTRL NO DISP or you end up waiting 2 hours for your late inbound plane. MELs, mechanical issues, upset passengers, 50% of your flights depart delayed, 75% if you’re not on the launch flights. Every turnaround is done as fast as possible.
Pros
You get to drive to work, and know your crews
Live in PHX, based in LAX
Pros
Enournous trip variety and selections. Massive amounts of open time, trip trading, even some dropping. More trips available to fit within your PBS criteria. American flying, meaning trips that go off without a hitch, depart on time, have reasonable turn times, and usually have great credit/TAFB ratios. Score 14-17 days off regularly, dropping the victory laps to make your commute easier. Tens of commutable flights every day, some on company metal with guaranteed seats, short flight.
Cons
You spend 2 hours a week commuting, and don’t know the crews that well.
Live in PHX, PHX based:
Cons
Very slim pickings on trips, few reserve guys so line holders are more likely to be reassigned, average trip credit is 4:00-4:30 per day meaning 11/12 days off per month, maybe 13/14 if you’re lucky. Every trip is delta so every day you either wake up at 4 to start your morning with FLT CTRL NO DISP or you end up waiting 2 hours for your late inbound plane. MELs, mechanical issues, upset passengers, 50% of your flights depart delayed, 75% if you’re not on the launch flights. Every turnaround is done as fast as possible.
Pros
You get to drive to work, and know your crews
Live in PHX, based in LAX
Pros
Enournous trip variety and selections. Massive amounts of open time, trip trading, even some dropping. More trips available to fit within your PBS criteria. American flying, meaning trips that go off without a hitch, depart on time, have reasonable turn times, and usually have great credit/TAFB ratios. Score 14-17 days off regularly, dropping the victory laps to make your commute easier. Tens of commutable flights every day, some on company metal with guaranteed seats, short flight.
Cons
You spend 2 hours a week commuting, and don’t know the crews that well.
11-10-2018 | 07:52 AM
#124
Gets Weekends Off
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From: I pilot
Admittedly, PHX is super senior at SkyWest.
11-10-2018 | 07:59 AM
#125
Works Fri-Sun, golf M-Th
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From: Golf Cart
A good friend of mine is on the CRJ at SW and at 10 months held SFO... not out of training but not that bad either. Are you talking about the ERJ at SFO out of training?
With that said two other friends are in the SW training pipeline and have been told to expect ORD or LGA on the ERJ. Take it for what it is worth... all third hand knowledge is suspect.
With that said two other friends are in the SW training pipeline and have been told to expect ORD or LGA on the ERJ. Take it for what it is worth... all third hand knowledge is suspect.
11-10-2018 | 08:18 AM
#126
Gets Weekends Off
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A good friend of mine is on the CRJ at SW and at 10 months held SFO... not out of training but not that bad either. Are you talking about the ERJ at SFO out of training?
With that said two other friends are in the SW training pipeline and have been told to expect ORD or LGA on the ERJ. Take it for what it is worth... all third hand knowledge is suspect.
With that said two other friends are in the SW training pipeline and have been told to expect ORD or LGA on the ERJ. Take it for what it is worth... all third hand knowledge is suspect.
Without a doubt, you'll get PHX, LAX and SEA faster at Compass, but it's not impossible to get the West Coast at SkyWest, that's all I'm saying.
11-10-2018 | 08:43 AM
#127
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Joined: Mar 2011
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From: 737 FO
CRJ SFO got awarded to Oct 2018 hires. It is a moving target and goes in waves. Right now, ER7 SFO and LAX is closer to 10 months.
Without a doubt, you'll get PHX, LAX and SEA faster at Compass, but it's not impossible to get the West Coast at SkyWest, that's all I'm saying.
Without a doubt, you'll get PHX, LAX and SEA faster at Compass, but it's not impossible to get the West Coast at SkyWest, that's all I'm saying.
11-10-2018 | 11:11 AM
#129
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From: Seat 0B
11-10-2018 | 02:16 PM
#130
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If I was a 1500 hr CFI that wanted west coast, and a quick upgrade, I'd put Horizon and Compass as my #1 and #2. Compass is obviously a bit riskier until they announce the contract renewal, but even worst case scenario, everybody will do OK in this hiring environment.
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