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Old 10-18-2018, 07:16 AM
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What if HK already has a Delta contract extension in his pocket and is sitting on it until after the current two year TA is renewed/extended in an attempt to keep the ask down?
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Old 10-18-2018, 07:47 AM
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If Delta likes to save money, which I would think they do. Then I’ve never totally seen the benefit of dropping CPZ to send it to Endeavor. That is millions of dollars in just parts buildup, training, adding staffing for west coast bases, etc, not to mention...the higher cost of pilots due to the wage difference.

Sending these planes to Skywest or wherever will still involve millions in training and now higher pilot wages.

Compass flies the oldest 175s and assuming the Skywest pay increase goes through. Will be the lowest paid operator flying for Delta.

No regional has the pilots on hand to staff all the CPZ planes.

I think it’s staying. Everyone thinks it’s going.
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Old 10-18-2018, 07:59 AM
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If Delta likes to save money, which I would think they do. Then I’ve never totally seen the benefit of dropping CPZ to send it to Endeavor. That is millions of dollars in just parts buildup, training, adding staffing for west coast bases, etc, not to mention...the higher cost of pilots due to the wage difference.


Sending these planes to Skywest or wherever will still involve millions in training and now higher pilot wages.

Compass flies the oldest 175s and assuming the Skywest pay increase goes through. Will be the lowest paid operator flying for Delta.

No regional has the pilots on hand to staff all the CPZ planes.

I think it’s staying. Everyone thinks it’s going.

I completely agree.
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Old 10-18-2018, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
What if HK already has a Delta contract extension in his pocket and is sitting on it until after the current two year TA is renewed/extended in an attempt to keep the ask down?
I know Compass is a private company and we can't look at any of their records or financial info but Delta is public so shouldn't we be able to see it from their end? shouldn't we be able to find the contract start/end dates and what Delta is paying for the capacity they bought from us? I'll be the first to admit I don't know anything about this kind of thing but just throwing it out there for someone smarter than me.
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Old 10-18-2018, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondDriver View Post
If Delta likes to save money, which I would think they do. Then I’ve never totally seen the benefit of dropping CPZ to send it to Endeavor. That is millions of dollars in just parts buildup, training, adding staffing for west coast bases, etc, not to mention...the higher cost of pilots due to the wage difference.

Sending these planes to Skywest or wherever will still involve millions in training and now higher pilot wages.

Compass flies the oldest 175s and assuming the Skywest pay increase goes through. Will be the lowest paid operator flying for Delta.

No regional has the pilots on hand to staff all the CPZ planes.

I think it’s staying. Everyone thinks it’s going.


No, no, no, no! Do not try to bring logic and sound reasoning into a internet discussion. Unacceptable!
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Old 10-18-2018, 08:55 AM
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Couldn't something be said about savings down the line though? Surely the plan for the mid-late '20s (isn't it weird saying it like that) is to consolidate regionals since surely pay will keep going up in relation to pilot retirements. So does it make financial sense to take a hit now and switch the fleet to a new carrier where Delta employees will have direct access and control of the regional, and then down the line save cost? Just playing devils advocate.
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Old 10-18-2018, 10:04 AM
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when multiple contractors out there all fighting for the lowest bid, why Delta want to consolidate?
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Old 10-18-2018, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondDriver View Post
If Delta likes to save money, which I would think they do. Then I’ve never totally seen the benefit of dropping CPZ to send it to Endeavor. That is millions of dollars in just parts buildup, training, adding staffing for west coast bases, etc, not to mention...the higher cost of pilots due to the wage difference.

Sending these planes to Skywest or wherever will still involve millions in training and now higher pilot wages.

Compass flies the oldest 175s and assuming the Skywest pay increase goes through. Will be the lowest paid operator flying for Delta.

No regional has the pilots on hand to staff all the CPZ planes.

I think it’s staying. Everyone thinks it’s going.
Honest question, who owns the parts inventory now on the Delta leased birds?
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Honest question, who owns the parts inventory now on the Delta leased birds?
https://www.aviationpros.com/press_r...rican-airlines

First paragraph, both DL/AA planes included in the Embraer parts pool system.
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Old 10-18-2018, 05:28 PM
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Honest question, who owns the parts inventory now on the Delta leased birds?
Parts are pooled in MEM. That’s why it takes nearly a day* to get parts when we go AOG. (* day and a half if you’re unlucky to break down in Canada)
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