Who cares about your theory.

 

Oh no, someone has a theory that doesn’t line up with your theory? What blasphemy

 

While I desperately want to agree that y'all are right, and we'll be keeping our planes, I feel some things should be pointed out, devil's advocate style.

If the birds go to, say, OO, well Delta no longer has to fund the compass SOC, etc. Adding our planes to the OO fleet would mean some increased costs, but it's also pretty cost effective to consolidate the birds because of this. Cheaper to increase the size of one of their programs than run two separate ones.

Not to mention OO would operate much more efficiently and have much better performance. I hate OO's guts, but they simply run a better ship than we do. It's not hard to, cpz is a mess. Literally, 35% of our Delta flights depart delayed, every single day, all year long. It drives me to madness every day watching the clock hit D+1 on every departure.

We have been missing Delta's performance goals and been in the penalty section on/off for months (years even). Why should they uphold their contract with us, if we can't even hold up our end? They took the 170's away as soon as they could.

For an airline that wants to be nothing but the best, this doesn't look good to DL.

Neither does our MX program. Embraer itself has expressed that Compass trashes their airplanes like no other US regional. (Blame the management, not the mechanics IMHO). Delta is aware of this.

Furthermore, when we ask on the company call about American, management seems confident that we are their top performer and shouldn't be worried. When we ask about Delta, they get uncomfortable and more or less say "do your best and let us hope we don't get the axe." Delta has said in the past they want to consolidate.

On top of all this, to add to the rumor mill (true but not sure how credible), I've personally been told by a DL ALPA guy to "expect some bad news in 2019"

Take all that with a grain of salt. If we DO get the contract extended, I'd call this place the best regional to be at, period.

 

Just for fun, let’s say you’re right and in 2020 our contract does not get renewed. OO can’t staff what they already have. There is no way they can staff 36 additional 175s. People have been saying expect bad news in 2017, 2018, and now it’s 2019.

I stopped caring about contract rumors a long time ago. It’s just not worth it because honestly the only people that actually know what will happen are the higher ups in DL and AA management. Not some gate agent, FA, Envoy pilot, OO pilot, or even a Delta pilot. All we can do is speculate and our forum isn’t about that. Only complaining about hats, night visuals, and posting memes are allowed here.

 

 

-The 170s were given away (ref: 170 memo Dec 2016). TSH didn’t want to open a 170 LGA base and figured it was more profitable to give them away...and use the opportunity to force out their MoSt exPensive crews.

-Ever ride on some of these OALs? CPZ MX isnt great, but certainly not the worst. The root cause is mainline demand. DL schedules the CZ tails to fly more hours than the rest, hense they break down more often. CP just staffs, mainline pays for the rest. If they wanted better they would pay for more infrastructure. Why do they do this? Because they can given the nature of ownership and not being a WO.

 

Hahaha now this is what I'm talking about! BLS is the meme enforcer.

 

The aircraft are leased...Delta could easily give up the leases or have another DCI carrier who wants the risk take the leases...

 

I say we keep grilling them in the employee calls, not that it’ll help

Someone asked last call, Im sure he will ask again

This place unfortunately is the type to withhold bad information until (or after) they legally need to disclose it. Pretty sure there’s a federal law that requires 60 days notice to “significant furloughs or shutdown” but even then not sure they’d honor that.

Reminds me of 2017

“Are you closing MSP? Rumors are circulating.”

“No, and we don’t have any 787’s on order, either.”

*2 days later*

“It is with a heavy heart that we must announce the drawdown and closure of the MSP crew base....”

 

In BG's defense, the actual question was "do you think MSP will GROW?" To which he said "no. We do not anticipate it growing."

Source: I was working the day of that employee call and didn't have a chance to listen to the recording until after the memo was posted about the MSP base closing. So I listened to that recording (and had seen the outrage) with that in mind. Not arguing that it's frustrating, but BG also admitted at the beginning of the MSP base closure call that he did know but didn't want to drop info of that magnitude at the end of an employee call. I can see the logic behind that, but I can very much see where the outrage can come from.

And no, I am not, nor ever was anything more than your "average Joe" line pilot while at Compass in case you think I am former management or anything.