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Old 10-18-2018, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DiamondDriver View Post
If Delta likes to save money, which I would think they do. Then I’ve never totally seen the benefit of dropping CPZ to send it to Endeavor. That is millions of dollars in just parts buildup, training, adding staffing for west coast bases, etc, not to mention...the higher cost of pilots due to the wage difference.

Sending these planes to Skywest or wherever will still involve millions in training and now higher pilot wages.

Compass flies the oldest 175s and assuming the Skywest pay increase goes through. Will be the lowest paid operator flying for Delta.

No regional has the pilots on hand to staff all the CPZ planes.

I think it’s staying. Everyone thinks it’s going.
Or convert the brand new Skywest 175SC’s and the brand new EDV 900’s that have 70 seats to 76 seats, and get rid of your oldest airplanes with high mx reliability...just gotta look at it from all possibilities...but I agree I think it’ll be extended
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Old 10-18-2018, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverFlexTO View Post
Or convert the brand new Skywest 175SC’s and the brand new EDV 900’s that have 70 seats to 76 seats, and get rid of your oldest airplanes with high mx reliability...just gotta look at it from all possibilities...but I agree I think it’ll be extended
Those “old” planes have a lot of life left in them. CPZ mx on the other hand is a different story. Also, those 175s have a higher gross weight than the 175SCs. Can’t get a new 175 with the same gross weight increase those old DL 175s were approved for.
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Old 10-18-2018, 08:00 PM
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My conspiracy theory is that the Seattle crew room and halls leading up to it are haunted with the spirits of old gold rush pan handlers and prospectors (circa 1890).. Management is renting the space for nothing since nobody else wanted it.. They are hoping it will keep commuting FAs from sleeping there overnight. You didn't hear this from me...
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Old 10-18-2018, 09:10 PM
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All this talk about “old” planes. They are from what 2007? There are airlines flying planes from the 70s and 80s just fine. It would be a huge hit to the ROI if Delta started parking “older” 175s so early.
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Originally Posted by VIRotate View Post
All this talk about “old” planes. They are from what 2007? There are airlines flying planes from the 70s and 80s just fine. It would be a huge hit to the ROI if Delta started parking “older” 175s so early.

I makes me laugh too. It’s only old if they stopped making it before your birth year....
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Old 10-18-2018, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by VIRotate View Post
All this talk about “old” planes. They are from what 2007? There are airlines flying planes from the 70s and 80s just fine. It would be a huge hit to the ROI if Delta started parking “older” 175s so early.
United's first 777's first went into service in 1994. 24 years and still going strong. Hell, some of their 75's are pushing 30. It's not the age of the plane but the quality of the maintenance. Sadly our guys are overworked, underpaid and quite literally, not given the tools they need to do the job.
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Originally Posted by JetDoc View Post
United's first 777's first went into service in 1994. 24 years and still going strong. Hell, some of their 75's are pushing 30. It's not the age of the plane but the quality of the maintenance. Sadly our guys are overworked, underpaid and quite literally, not given the tools they need to do the job.

First delivery was May of 1995 and their inaugural commercial flight was June, but that doesn’t change your point.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JetDoc View Post
United's first 777's first went into service in 1994. 24 years and still going strong. Hell, some of their 75's are pushing 30. It's not the age of the plane but the quality of the maintenance. Sadly our guys are overworked, underpaid and quite literally, not given the tools they need to do the job.
It’s also number of cycles. Those long haul planes do many less cycles in the same time period due to the nature of the flying.
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Old 10-19-2018, 01:20 AM
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It’s also number of cycles. Those long haul planes do many less cycles in the same time period due to the nature of the flying.
Yeah that is true but still look at DL's MDs. Same type of flying we do. Heck even some of their 75s doing ATL-JAX/MCO all day. I know their maintenance is obviously better but I still wouldn't call our planes old regardless. It's even sillier that parking older ones was even brought up.
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Originally Posted by VIRotate View Post
Yeah that is true but still look at DL's MDs. Same type of flying we do. Heck even some of their 75s doing ATL-JAX/MCO all day. I know their maintenance is obviously better but I still wouldn't call our planes old regardless. It's even sillier that parking older ones was even brought up.
The oldest Delta MD in service is 1987.
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