Originally Posted by Slowhawk

Pretty sure there’s a federal law that requires 60 days notice to “significant furloughs or shutdown” but even then not sure they’d honor that.

Originally Posted by MainlineorSuici

While I desperately want to agree that y'all are right, and we'll be keeping our planes, I feel some things should be pointed out, devil's advocate style.

If the birds go to, say, OO, well Delta no longer has to fund the compass SOC, etc. Adding our planes to the OO fleet would mean some increased costs, but it's also pretty cost effective to consolidate the birds because of this. Cheaper to increase the size of one of their programs than run two separate ones.

Not to mention OO would operate much more efficiently and have much better performance. I hate OO's guts, but they simply run a better ship than we do. It's not hard to, cpz is a mess. Literally, 35% of our Delta flights depart delayed, every single day, all year long. It drives me to madness every day watching the clock hit D+1 on every departure.

We have been missing Delta's performance goals and been in the penalty section on/off for months (years even). Why should they uphold their contract with us, if we can't even hold up our end? They took the 170's away as soon as they could.

For an airline that wants to be nothing but the best, this doesn't look good to DL.

Neither does our MX program. Embraer itself has expressed that Compass trashes their airplanes like no other US regional. (Blame the management, not the mechanics IMHO). Delta is aware of this.

Furthermore, when we ask on the company call about American, management seems confident that we are their top performer and shouldn't be worried. When we ask about Delta, they get uncomfortable and more or less say "do your best and let us hope we don't get the axe." Delta has said in the past they want to consolidate.

On top of all this, to add to the rumor mill (true but not sure how credible), I've personally been told by a DL ALPA guy to "expect some bad news in 2019"

Take all that with a grain of salt. If we DO get the contract extended, I'd call this place the best regional to be at, period.

Originally Posted by TillerThriller

Wanted to throw this one out there because I have heard from some new hires lately that they were told In training DL is trying to get de identified FOQA data because they own the planes and track pilots. A couple of new hire FOs have been so nervous about ASAPs and FOQA data hurting their chances of getting hired. I am not involved with that program but from what I understand that would go against what the program is for right? I told them it was prolly a scare tactic.

Originally Posted by Dalda Erlines

That is so untrue in so many ways. It’s utterly ridiculous. The FOQA program is quite protected to great legal lengths. DL may be able to gain access to knowledge of certain events, but in no way will the pilot be connected or affected. If they are then my suggestion would be to grab a lawyer and cash out.

Originally Posted by VIRotate

Just for fun, let’s say you’re right and in 2020 our contract does not get renewed. OO can’t staff what they already have. There is no way they can staff 36 additional 175s. People have been saying expect bad news in 2017, 2018, and now it’s 2019.

I stopped caring about contract rumors a long time ago. It’s just not worth it because honestly the only people that actually know what will happen are the higher ups in DL and AA management. Not some gate agent, FA, Envoy pilot, OO pilot, or even a Delta pilot. All we can do is speculate and our forum isn’t about that. Only complaining about hats, night visuals, and posting memes are allowed here.

Originally Posted by DeltaCorrectons

OO might not be able to staff them but EDV is so overstaffed right now it’s not even funny.

Originally Posted by DeltaCorrectons

OO might not be able to staff them but EDV is so overstaffed right now it’s not even funny. Yesterday the new CEO came into the MSP crew room and his word choice was interesting when answering questions about growth basically leading most to speculate that someone going to be getting bad news but don’t want to make the same mistake they made with Expressjet leaving fling with them for so long and watching performance and the aircraft go into the ****ter.

Originally Posted by Excargodog

So just out of idle curiosity, how many of those overstaffed guys are type-rated in anything other than CRJs? And how many E-175 sims do you have? Because ther seems like a systemwide shortage of the latter...

Just sayin....