VIRotate

It's up sometime in 2020.

FlyingKat

Actually there wasn't any ambiguity about it, and he said small operations like Gojet (the question was in reference to Gojet) would be gone in 12 to 24 months, which gets you to either 2019 or 2020.

Now things always are subject to change, but it was a pretty definite statement and was supposed to be "among friends" and stay in the room.

FlyingKat

I've seen the video. Bastian said with clarity that going forward their regional partners would be Republic, Endeavor, and Skywest. He also said that small operations like Gojet would be gone in 12-24 months. That is why the managements at TSH and Delta weren't happy it was released and it was taken down. What he said was clearly "among friends" and off the record. Bastian never thought the comments would see the light of day. Kind of stupid in the age of cell phones, but CEOs and politicians make mistakes like that all the time.

If you have been around as long as you say you have, then you know these CPAs are written with plenty of ways for mainline carriers to dump the regional carrier for lack of performance or other reasons if they feel the need to terminate early and get rid of them. With the IOCC cluster and other issues I guarantee Delta and United have all the ammunition they need to cancel these contracts if they desire. The biggest impediment to moving the planes is the lack of pilots, otherwise I think this would already be happening.

Now its the airlines, hold your breath and things can change. But if you work for any of the TSH carriers and don't realize some big changes are likely headed our way, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you cheap. What is likely is the airlines are sold and Hulas heads back to Boca with a big check and we are all better off for it in the end. But there is always the danger TSH management could screw this up and have the planes taken away, which wouldn't be good for any of us. Gojet is likely up first, and if they lose the 25 UAL 700s that will tell you where we are all going. What affects one TSH carrier could affect us all.

savedbythevnav

You got us. All 4,800 of us are in the board room making the decision.

As if we sit here wanting to f*ck over another pilot group. We can't staff our current contracts without tanking everyone's QOL, let alone some other airlines contracts.

ELAC321

Calm down, it was a joke that some skyw pilots seemingly get giddy when their company takes planes from other carriers.

Excargodog

Absolutely, which affects EVERYBODY who is flying codeshares, not just the regional airlines with the misfortune to currently be owned by TSH.


Again correct. Ask the Delta guys who lost their pensions during the Delta bankruptcy. It's a cyclical industry. The highs can be damn high and a year later you may be furloughed and looking for a way to feed your family until the next upturn.

If this is the career you have chosen the sooner you either realize that and accept that or decide to go do something else, the happier you will be.

But now having conceded that, the times are currently good, and the prospects for a professional pilot has rarely been better than in the current marketplace. Nobody is ever completely in charge of their destiny but right now, right here, doesn't seem like a bad place to be.

Voski

When is Compass’ agreement with American set to expire?

C37AFE

Yes I saw it and it was very clear that he said they were consolidating to those three. Others on here came away with same understanding....

NeverFlexTO

That’s been beat with a dead horse in the main compass thread so do a little research before posting...but realistically 2024 after the 2 two year automatic contract renewals...

TheFly

Really? I know several Comair pilots that ended up as part 135 dispatchers and pilots. SkyWest pilots get hired at SWA, UA, DL, AA and any other major/legacy as much as any other carrier. Any OO has never furloughed.