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Old 08-17-2019, 09:02 AM
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Sooner than I might expect would be now. They said 2-3 weeks, so that is what I expect. We're almost at the 2 week mark.
Too true. Unless there is still going to be a substantial decrease in flying, they are looking at a six month captain shortage anyway from the hiring freeze two years ago. If the people they need to upgrade to fix it bail to DEC and near-DEC jobs Compass will wind up having to hire DECs themselves for a year or so, and the signing bonuses on those guys are hitting $50k currently.

Whatever the case with Compass, the overall pilot demand situation still is tilting more heavily in favor of pilots than it has for decades. Compass had the advantage because “we are west.” But if they lose that, they are going to have to compete economically with the guys that put you on reserve in places like Newark.
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Old 08-17-2019, 09:06 AM
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Old 08-17-2019, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
Whatever the case with Compass, the overall pilot demand situation still is tilting more heavily in favor of pilots than it has for decades. Compass had the advantage because “we are west.” But if they lose that, they are going to have to compete economically with the guys that put you on reserve in places like Newark.
This is why I am not running scared - holding my bet and looking forward to a fall class start. Then if I need to make a change I still have the training event / type all the same as what originally brought me to compass. Heck even if I changed my bet it's still after the new year for any class date so I might as well keep my cards close for now.
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This is why I am not running scared - holding my bet and looking forward to a fall class start. Then if I need to make a change I still have the training event / type all the same as what originally brought me to compass. Heck even if I changed my bet it's still after the new year for any class date so I might as well keep my cards close for now.
If you have a fall class date, maybe wouldn’t hurt to get a winter class date elsewhere and just cancel it if it came to that. Backup plans, man.
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Old 08-17-2019, 11:34 AM
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If you have a fall class date, maybe wouldn’t hurt to get a winter class date elsewhere and just cancel it if it came to that. Backup plans, man.
Absolutely.
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Old 08-17-2019, 12:16 PM
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I was concerned about a CA shortage too, but I was wrong. As of September they’ll have 50 reserve CA’s in LAX alone sitting around. Summer schedules only had me doing 30 hours a month, and that’s when we only had like 28 reserves. Unless there’s fleet growth that outpaces the delta stuff (which won’t happen), we’ll be fine on CA’s. Attracting FO’s may become an issue for a while.
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How do y’all feel about the SF340 in the winter...
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Old 08-17-2019, 12:49 PM
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I was concerned about a CA shortage too, but I was wrong. As of September they’ll have 50 reserve CA’s in LAX alone sitting around. Summer schedules only had me doing 30 hours a month, and that’s when we only had like 28 reserves. Unless there’s fleet growth that outpaces the delta stuff (which won’t happen), we’ll be fine on CA’s. Attracting FO’s may become an issue for a while.
50 captains is two and a half months attrition at the OLD rates, before everybody started dropping apps and working other options. We’ll burn through the excess fast unless management can prove there is a future here. And we are still thin in the FO ELIGIBLE for upgrade department. Won’t take many of those deciding to take the DEC signing bonus and upgrading elsewhere to put us in a deep hole. Especially if the company is unwilling or unable to budge on the company mins for the RATP and low ME time guys.
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50 captains is two and a half months attrition at the OLD rates, before everybody started dropping apps and working other options. We’ll burn through the excess fast unless management can prove there is a future here. And we are still thin in the FO ELIGIBLE for upgrade department. Won’t take many of those deciding to take the DEC signing bonus and upgrading elsewhere to put us in a deep hole. Especially if the company is unwilling or unable to budge on the company mins for the RATP and low ME time guys.
I’m guessing there’s plenty of FOs right at captain mins or a month away at this point. When hiring boomed last year, there were 30-40 pilots a month getting hired. I was mid summer and am nearing 700 hours. Those March/April ‘18 hires should be right there.
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