Losing Delta and New Opportunities
09-11-2019, 04:45 PM
#601
Banned
Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 273
Originally Posted by FlyingKat
Obviously you need to read a few pages back. What I said is likely, is UAL will make a deal with its pilots to address their concerns on widebodies, give them furlough protection through a flow down, and a Billion dollars in increased pay and retirement incentives. In exchange UAL will get relaxed scope and a flow up. Most likely the flow up/down will be at Mana Air, and all the increase in large RJs will be there, and Mana Air will start aquiring other regionals besides Expressjet. You will see most of UALs regional flying move to Mana Air.
Are you DoSomePilotStuf on the ExpressJet forums?
Very similar types of posts. I don't think you're too off on things but think the leverage comes from the top with the widebodies. Just don't see these 550's being much if any leverage on UAL pilots.
With the hiring and current good economy it may be difficult to convince the junior pilots they need furlough protections. How does UAL make that argument?
I know a recession happens every 10 years or so and we're due but "out of sight and out of mind" you know?
09-11-2019, 04:50 PM
#602
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2011
Position: Taco Rocket Operator
Posts: 2,485
Originally Posted by SureJetz
Are you DoSomePilotStuf on the ExpressJet forums?
Very similar types of posts. I don't think you're too off on things but think the leverage comes from the top with the widebodies. Just don't see these 550's being much if any leverage on UAL pilots.
With the hiring and current good economy it may be difficult to convince the junior pilots they need furlough protections. How does UAL make that argument?
I know a recession happens every 10 years or so and we're due but "out of sight and out of mind" you know?
Very similar types of posts. I don't think you're too off on things but think the leverage comes from the top with the widebodies. Just don't see these 550's being much if any leverage on UAL pilots.
With the hiring and current good economy it may be difficult to convince the junior pilots they need furlough protections. How does UAL make that argument?
I know a recession happens every 10 years or so and we're due but "out of sight and out of mind" you know?
I have nothing to do with Expressjet. Maybe I have the same sources as this other guy.....
09-11-2019, 05:18 PM
#604
Porco Rosso
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 2,522
Originally Posted by Sniper66
Let me help out
Panam ...... sold international to buy National out of MIA......mistake
TWA sold international LHR ... Icahn and caribou .... mistake
Braniff thought a regional can just add 747s with no route structure ...mistake
America West .... 747s Pacific dream ....mistake
AMR, UAL, DL, SWA are here to stay
Along with FEDEX and UPS
The rest you are correct we shall see
Panam ...... sold international to buy National out of MIA......mistake
TWA sold international LHR ... Icahn and caribou .... mistake
Braniff thought a regional can just add 747s with no route structure ...mistake
America West .... 747s Pacific dream ....mistake
AMR, UAL, DL, SWA are here to stay
Along with FEDEX and UPS
The rest you are correct we shall see
