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Old 09-10-2019, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
And yet JSX

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSX_(airline)

Seems to be willing to make a go of it with old EMB 135s and 145s, rehabbed and now limited to only 30 pax.

Clearly they have a different idea than you if what is economically feasible.
Look at the destinations and origins, those are high value markets in a key segment. It’s also worth noting the volume is nowhere that of a typical regional operation. A 550 flying into Aspen is going to have 10 people willing to pay for 1st class. A 550 flying into Evansville, not so much.

The 550 is not the moonshot people are making it out to be. True enough it has a market where it can make a great return. But it’s not a 200 replacement, it’s a stop gap/ bluff hoping that UALPA will blink and give some type of scope relief.
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Old 09-10-2019, 09:28 PM
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Certified in Canada last week. FAA certification shortly. Will be in revenue service around October 26. Enjoy big fella.....



Oct 26 th ok lets see there big fella
Keep your pans on
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Old 09-11-2019, 04:29 AM
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Old 09-11-2019, 05:01 AM
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Because UAL is only flying a fraction of the 50 seaters they can fly. Also, when the worm turns as it always does in this business when the economy takes a dump, UAL pilots will have no rights to any of the 50 seaters. If UAL offers furlough protection through a flow down then the decision will be easy.
Our current contract forces the company to convert all 76 seaters to 70 seats if we furlough. Not a flow down protection but it’s a costly form of protection. And in this environment a lot, and I mean A Lot, has to go south to induce furloughs. Not saying it can’t/won’t happen but most of us are willing to take our chances. No scope erosion on either end.
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Old 09-11-2019, 07:44 AM
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We have to remember, those operations have a ridiculously low success rate. So I wouldn't say it's a marker that it is feasible.
Historically speaking, ALL airlines have a ridiculously low success rate. Just ask the PanAm, TWA, and Braniff guys - among very many others.


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Old 09-11-2019, 08:23 AM
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Compass memes > anything else on APF
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Old 09-11-2019, 08:40 AM
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A 550 flying into Aspen is going to have 10 people willing to pay for 1st class. A 550 flying into Evansville, not so much.
The major airlines use a hub a spoke system which means most of the passengers connected into the hub from a spoke on an aircraft that probability wise offered a first class ticket. Said first class passenger will now have first class throughout their travel experience. The lack of first class is the reason a different airline has said they want to end the 50 seater.
O&D hub traffic to EVV already gets a premium for economy.
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:13 AM
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Historically speaking, ALL airlines have a ridiculously low success rate. Just ask the PanAm, TWA, and Braniff guys - among very many others.


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Let me help out
Panam ...... sold international to buy National out of MIA......mistake
TWA sold international LHR ... Icahn and caribou .... mistake
Braniff thought a regional can just add 747s with no route structure ...mistake
America West .... 747s Pacific dream ....mistake


AMR, UAL, DL, SWA are here to stay
Along with FEDEX and UPS

The rest you are correct we shall see
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:58 AM
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grrrr I’ll be flying during the employee call.

Guys, this is your chance, I hope y’all don’t hold back, and get some good words in before the FA stories start. That’s your chance to get answers
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