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07-14-2013, 02:17 PM
#2051
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Originally Posted by CPZ175
I don't have the exact timeline in front of me, but the company and ALPA are currently meeting on a regular basis with a mediator. Anything unresolved by the fall will be decided by the same mediator, who will switch roles and become an arbitrator. The arbitration is binding and the new agreement will be completed no later than November. I'm sure someone will correct me if this is wrong.
07-14-2013, 02:27 PM
#2052
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Originally Posted by Oberon
Originally Posted by CPZ175
I don't have the exact timeline in front of me, but the company and ALPA are currently meeting on a regular basis with a mediator. Anything unresolved by the fall will be decided by the same mediator, who will switch roles and become an arbitrator. The arbitration is binding and the new agreement will be completed no later than November. I'm sure someone will correct me if this is wrong.
07-14-2013, 03:25 PM
#2053
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Originally Posted by Oberon
Clarification: there is a limit of open items the arbitrator will rule on. I believe it is 20 items. I think all other unresolved issues revert back to the old language. I say "think" because I'm relying on my memory so take it for what it's worth.
07-14-2013, 03:37 PM
#2054
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Originally Posted by Snickers
Would you happen to know what the 20 items are? Could new hires look forward to hotel and per diem in training or is that still unknown?
07-14-2013, 03:50 PM
#2055
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Originally Posted by Snickers
Would you happen to know what the 20 items are? Could new hires look forward to hotel and per diem in training or is that still unknown?
07-14-2013, 05:48 PM
#2056
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Originally Posted by FlyingGorilla
20 items per side. So there could be a total of 40 items to be decided upon in arbitration.
07-14-2013, 06:33 PM
#2057
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Originally Posted by bohicagain
I was told it was 20 from both so they have to agree on the 20 items
I think each side agreeing to the 20 items would be an absolute impossibility at this point. Another common misconception is that it's like 'baseball arbitration', which it's not. The arbitrator can pick a side or he can go with 'industry standard'.
07-16-2013, 06:17 AM
#2058
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Sounds like new hire classes to start soon.
I'd be curious how many people in the pool are still interested after a year in it.
Anywho...Welcome aboard.
I'd be curious how many people in the pool are still interested after a year in it.
Anywho...Welcome aboard.
07-16-2013, 06:23 AM
#2059
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Originally Posted by FlyingGorilla
Nope. It can be as many as 20 from each side. Some issues can overlap, but they don't have to.
I think each side agreeing to the 20 items would be an absolute impossibility at this point. Another common misconception is that it's like 'baseball arbitration', which it's not. The arbitrator can pick a side or he can go with 'industry standard'.
I think each side agreeing to the 20 items would be an absolute impossibility at this point. Another common misconception is that it's like 'baseball arbitration', which it's not. The arbitrator can pick a side or he can go with 'industry standard'.
No way to know what the 20 items will be until direct and/or mediated negotiations are complete. At that point, each side will look at the items that are not agreed to, and pick the 20 that are most important to them.
07-16-2013, 07:57 AM
#2060
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Saw on the other site that the first class is next Thursday! Glad the poolies can finally dry off, it was a long wait!
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