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johnson48 10-23-2014 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Rama04 (Post 1752172)
A couple things from the past week talking to the union and Chief pilot.
The delivery schedule for AA has been ramped up to 3 per month. Deliveries will be done by the end of summer. They're trying to impress AA so they can win another 10-20 airframes. Apparently they've been sold on additional airframes if compass is a reliable partner for AA. AA also wants the planes in the sky asap...
The company is actually advocating for a continued flow. They want at least the preferential interview... Keeps their longevity low and profit up. Specifically, their interview process staying with the delta style process and not watering it down like some other regionals was cited.
A year ago, applicants were only flight instructors because nobody thought they would have such movement there. Those guys don't have 1,000 hours sic yet. They spoke about the possibility of having street captains if hiring from previous 121 slows. If compass gets another 10-20 airframes, it'll be explosive.

This is the best thing I have heard/read all day!!(only to be crushed when the next post says the opposite I am sure). Regardless...brightened my day for a little while and hoping all the above happens. I was impressed by the process and the people and can't wait to get started.

Snickers 10-23-2014 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Big C (Post 1752179)
I was denied the ability to list a non-rev or the flight deck jump seat by an AA gate agent at VPS yesterday. I called the AA non-rev line and they said to go to MyID Travel and list for the flight there. Can anyone who knows what they are talking about please tell me what an individual's user ID would be, or who to contact at Compass HQ to get me signed up for MyId Travel. I have listed for AA flights with many gate agents before and have never been denied at the gate.

They should not have denied you. AA jumpseat listing instructions are on the company intranet, click departments followed by flight ops and it's on the lower left side of the screen. You can also call 18889335922 for listings within 24 hours.

Big C 10-23-2014 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by Snickers (Post 1752183)
They should not have denied you. AA jumpseat listing instructions are on the company intranet, click departments followed by flight ops and it's on the lower left side of the screen. You can also call 18889335922 for listings within 24 hours.

Excellent, Got it, thanks..

Big C 10-23-2014 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Big C (Post 1752193)
Excellent, Got it, thanks..

That login and password for my id travel is incorrect. Can you try it and see if it works for you

MrMustache 10-23-2014 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by johnson48 (Post 1752182)
This is the best thing I have heard/read all day!!(only to be crushed when the next post says the opposite I am sure). Regardless...brightened my day for a little while and hoping all the above happens. I was impressed by the process and the people and can't wait to get started.

That was all accurate, except maybe street captains. Haven't heard that but who knows!

Big C 10-23-2014 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by Snickers (Post 1752183)
They should not have denied you. AA jumpseat listing instructions are on the company intranet, click departments followed by flight ops and it's on the lower left side of the screen. You can also call 18889335922 for listings within 24 hours.

That login and password for my id travel is incorrect. Can you try it and see if it works for you

FLYZERG 10-23-2014 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Rama04 (Post 1752172)
A couple things from the past week talking to the union and Chief pilot.
The delivery schedule for AA has been ramped up to 3 per month. Deliveries will be done by the end of summer. They're trying to impress AA so they can win another 10-20 airframes. Apparently they've been sold on additional airframes if compass is a reliable partner for AA. AA also wants the planes in the sky asap...
The company is actually advocating for a continued flow. They want at least the preferential interview... Keeps their longevity low and profit up. Specifically, their interview process staying with the delta style process and not watering it down like some other regionals was cited.
A year ago, applicants were only flight instructors because nobody thought they would have such movement there. Those guys don't have 1,000 hours sic yet. They spoke about the possibility of having street captains if hiring from previous 121 slows. If compass gets another 10-20 airframes, it'll be explosive.

If I were in management I would probably feel like a student who put off studying knowing I could probably cram at the last minute. I really hope they have solid plan for all of this, If they wanted lower longevity you would think you wouldn't want to have holdbacks at all.

jarretk 10-23-2014 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Big C (Post 1752209)

Originally Posted by Snickers (Post 1752183)
They should not have denied you. AA jumpseat listing instructions are on the company intranet, click departments followed by flight ops and it's on the lower left side of the screen. You can also call 18889335922 for listings within 24 hours.

That login and password for my id travel is incorrect. Can you try it and see if it works for you

That's the correct one. Make sure you go to that specific website because just going to myidtravel.com is the wrong login location. Also the password is case sensitive. I just tried it and it works

saturn 10-23-2014 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Rsv4lyfe (Post 1752097)
Just saw the upgrade training sheet. About 250 upgrades planned through November, about 250 FO's on property right now. I think it's safe to say anyone starting class in November onwards will not be upgrading by years end 2015. Maybe mid 2016? Just a WAG.

With a November class date, I calculate that being at 50% or less seniority in company by Nov '15. That's not including any bypassing. Explain to me how that's not an upgrade capable position? I get the 250 number quickly: 150 flows + 100 new CAs for AA flying = 250 new CAs. However, I think that's overly simplistic.

I guess the better question is how large will the pilot group be by Nov '15? 600, 650, 700 pilots?? Sept14-Summer15 the training department plans to hire 440. Most airline staffing has the most JR CA 55%-60% seniority. Even a few months ago the most Jr CA at Compass was 59%. So point being, the most JR FO on property before Sept hiring started will be about 46% in Nov'15 given the most conservative of estimates (460 seniority # - 150 flows - 30 other attrition = 280 ÷ 600 = 46%, or ÷ 700 = 40%). November's most Jr new hire would be seniority #360 ÷ 600 = 60%, or ÷ 700 = 51%. Still, not accounting for bypasses.

coryk 10-23-2014 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by saturn (Post 1752324)
With a November class date, I calculate that being at 50% or less seniority in company by Nov '15. That's not including any bypassing. Explain to me how that's not an upgrade capable position? I get the 250 number quickly: 150 flows + 100 new CAs for AA flying = 250 new CAs. However, I think that's overly simplistic.

I guess the better question is how large will the pilot group be by Nov '15? 600, 650, 700 pilots?? Sept14-Summer15 the training department plans to hire 440. Most airline staffing has the most JR CA 55%-60% seniority. Even a few months ago the most Jr CA at Compass was 59%. So point being, the most JR FO on property before Sept hiring started will be about 46% in Nov'15 given the most conservative of estimates (460 seniority # - 150 flows - 30 other attrition = 280 ÷ 600 = 46%, or ÷ 700 = 40%). November's most Jr new hire would be seniority #360 ÷ 600 = 60%, or ÷ 700 = 51%. Still, not accounting for bypasses.

I guess he's trying to say that there are about 480 pilots on property now-- 240ish of them are captains. 150 will flow next year, so that leaves 100 captains on property (currently, without flow rights). 2015 end of the year seniority list will have about 750 pilots, so thats about 375 captains, 100 of which are on property now. 250 upgrades for next year should account for every FO on property right now.

If you're a November hire, you might upgrade by 2016 but I wouldn't count on it. I think the last of the captains for next year have already started training. I think November hires are looking at early/mid 2016, which is still pretty stellar for a regional given the current circumstances. YMMV.


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