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I'm in the same boat. I have a class with Compass in Feb (hopefully it moves up a bit) and also had a November class with PSA. I would have had to put in my Two weeks today but I'm going to see what happens between now and the end of the year and probably make the move to Compass early next year. I don't think I'll make the quick upgrade window in Feb but got a good feeling about the company when I interviewed. Starting over at first year pay is something I thought I would never consider however here I am

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Originally Posted by datgrapedrink (Post 1757672)

Do you guys really believe that Compass will continue to staff FO position even after the quick upgrade opportunity is gone? Also can anyone give me a rough breakdown of the types of patterns flown out of MSP (Day trips, 2, 3, 4 days, CDO's).

I have a class date with Compass and literally need to put in my 2 week notice sometime in the next day or two. I'm currently a 7 year FO at a now bottom feeding airline.

Thanks!

The breakdown is the same at all the bases just about. We have CDO's, day trips, 1-5 day pairings. 3-5 days are most common in MSP. For LAX its 2-3 days.

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Originally Posted by datgrapedrink (Post 1757672)

Is your current airline upgrading or downgrading? If it were me
And my company is downgrading, if quit and never look back. This is essentially what I did.

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Originally Posted by Rsv4lyfe (Post 1757714)

The breakdown is the same at all the bases just about. We have CDO's, day trips, 1-5 day pairings. 3-5 days are most common in MSP. For LAX its 2-3 days.

2 and 3 day trips are most common in LAX? I thought it was the longer trips. But 2 and 3 are what I want.

Not super hard - Nov Trips Breakdown:

LAX - 26% CDO, 25% 1 day, 16% 2 day, 8% 3 day, 17% 4 day, 8% 5 day trips.

DTW - 23% CDO, 23% 1 day, 8% 2 day, 7% 3 day, 14% 4 day, 26% 5 day trips.

MSP - 18% CDO, 16% 1 day, 21% 2 day, 5% 3 day, 21% 4 day, 19% 5 day trips.

Obviously a very even distribution of trips. Bid what you want and want what you bid.

CDO - Is that continous duty overnight? Is that normal, 26% of the schedule/pairings to be standups? Can guys even avoid them when there are that many? idk just seems like a lot. :confused:

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Originally Posted by Bumbaclot (Post 1758046)

CDO - Is that continous duty overnight? Is that normal, 26% of the schedule/pairings to be standups? Can guys even avoid them when there are that many? idk just seems like a lot. :confused:

Yes, those are standups. They are all contained in pre-built lines that adhere to the contractual rules regarding them (no more than 3 in a row, 2 days off after 2 or more CDOs etc.). The left overs that don't fit into said lines end up in open time. CDOs cannot show up on a pilots schedule unless said pilot picks one up or selects a line preference in PBS that will assign them CDO(s) to finish a layer.

All that said, they're avoidable unless you are extremely junior, which most people aren't for more than a month or so due to all of the hiring. If you don't want to fly them, then bid reserve.

Biter - may seem strange to you guys, but that's a throwback from the NWA days. DTW has always had a lot of them, and most commuters like them. They're normally productive, and one can fly 3 of them for a complete month.

I love the 5 day trips and I'm not a commuter. The productive ones can give me great credit and a lot of days off (17+).

How senior/junior are the 5 day trips