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Old 04-07-2015 | 12:30 PM
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I'm thinking about jumping ship to another regional, and it looks like Compass would really be the only one I would be willing to do it with.

Are there any active Compass pilots who have done the same on this thread that I could call and pick your brain about the company over the phone? PM me if interested.
Old 04-07-2015 | 02:22 PM
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Sorry if this question has been asked before, but after you complete the home study course how long does it take to start ground school? Interview is Friday.
Old 04-07-2015 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy94
Opens June 1st. Went junior, guys still in class were awarded it.

If a new-hire that has previous 500 hrs of 121 time gets awarded SEA how would the upgrade time look if hired in June-nov timeframe?

How are guys doing in system class and sim with self study course?
Old 04-07-2015 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BeechPilot33
If a new-hire that has previous 500 hrs of 121 time gets awarded SEA how would the upgrade time look if hired in June-nov timeframe?

How are guys doing in system class and sim with self study course?
If you start in June, pilots in your class that have the time will be holding captain in Aug-Oct range. Since you won't have the time, pilots after you will get the upgrade slots. It will take about a year for you to get up to 1000 hours and by then all the more senior pilots to you, who had to bypass due to low time, will take the regular upgrade slots for regular attrition. You're looking at a 2-4 year upgrade because of these factors.
Old 04-07-2015 | 03:54 PM
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Default Traning is very hard

If you have no 121 experience or
Flying a glass cockpit the training is very hard. I had a friend who went through training and he told me your on your own. No extra help with instructor or any teacher process.

They want you to know all your flows and memory items and limitations COLD!!!!!!

They want you to know your profiles very well. The sim i heard they will give you 3 extra sims if you need it. Systems training your own your own again.

Be very careful joining compass if you have no experience. One doesn't want to fail initial training and have a record in their file.

Skywest and mesa have very good training. They really teach you and make the effort. Skywest by far has the best training. With skywest as long as they see you are trying and have a good attitude they will work with you and do their best to get you through the training. On the other hand Compass, gojet, and transtate mostly farm out their sim trainig from flight safety and really don't have any of their own sim instructors to teach you. And in their ground school the instructor just read out and goes very fast about systems so you have to be ahead of the game.

For prior 121 guys, military guys, it's a piece of cake, but for new hires of CFi background or part 135 guys flying cargo it might be a challenge.

Good luck


QUOTE=BeechPilot33;1857576]If a new-hire that has previous 500 hrs of 121 time gets awarded SEA how would the upgrade time look if hired in June-nov timeframe?

How are guys doing in system class and sim with self study course?[/QUOTE]
Old 04-07-2015 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by friend
If you have no 121 experience or
Flying a glass cockpit the training is very hard. I had a friend who went through training and he told me your on your own. No extra help with instructor or any teacher process.

They want you to know all your flows and memory items and limitations COLD!!!!!!

They want you to know your profiles very well. The sim i heard they will give you 3 extra sims if you need it. Systems training your own your own again.

Be very careful joining compass if you have no experience. One doesn't want to fail initial training and have a record in their file.

Skywest and mesa have very good training. They really teach you and make the effort. Skywest by far has the best training. With skywest as long as they see you are trying and have a good attitude they will work with you and do their best to get you through the training. On the other hand Compass, gojet, and transtate mostly farm out their sim trainig from flight safety and really don't have any of their own sim instructors to teach you. And in their ground school the instructor just read out and goes very fast about systems so you have to be ahead of the game.

For prior 121 guys, military guys, it's a piece of cake, but for new hires of CFi background or part 135 guys flying cargo it might be a challenge.

Good luck
Ignore this person. Most of what he said is incorrect. Compass doesn't farm out any training. All done in house, and they have a high pass rate close to 99% success. Training is AQP, so very hard to fail a checking event that goes on your record.

Plus, never take advice from someone with writing skills this atrocious.
Old 04-07-2015 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl
Ignore this person. Most of what he said is incorrect. Compass doesn't farm out any training. All done in house, and they have a high pass rate close to 99% success. Training is AQP, so very hard to fail a checking event that goes on your record.

Plus, never take advice from someone with writing skills this atrocious.
Old 04-07-2015 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by friend
If you have no 121 experience or
Flying a glass cockpit the training is very hard. I had a friend who went through training and he told me your on your own. No extra help with instructor or any teacher process.

They want you to know all your flows and memory items and limitations COLD!!!!!!

They want you to know your profiles very well. The sim i heard they will give you 3 extra sims if you need it. Systems training your own your own again.

Be very careful joining compass if you have no experience. One doesn't want to fail initial training and have a record in their file.

Skywest and mesa have very good training. They really teach you and make the effort. Skywest by far has the best training. With skywest as long as they see you are trying and have a good attitude they will work with you and do their best to get you through the training. On the other hand Compass, gojet, and transtate mostly farm out their sim trainig from flight safety and really don't have any of their own sim instructors to teach you. And in their ground school the instructor just read out and goes very fast about systems so you have to be ahead of the game.

For prior 121 guys, military guys, it's a piece of cake, but for new hires of CFi background or part 135 guys flying cargo it might be a challenge.

Good luck


QUOTE=BeechPilot33;1857576]If a new-hire that has previous 500 hrs of 121 time gets awarded SEA how would the upgrade time look if hired in June-nov timeframe?

How are guys doing in system class and sim with self study course?
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All instructors are CPZ employees. Systems is well taught. We have had numerous flight instructors come through and pass. The instructors will get you through as long as you are trying and have a decent attitude.
Old 04-07-2015 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by friend
If you have no 121 experience or
Flying a glass cockpit the training is very hard. I had a friend who went through training and he told me your on your own. No extra help with instructor or any teacher process.

They want you to know all your flows and memory items and limitations COLD!!!!!!

They want you to know your profiles very well. The sim i heard they will give you 3 extra sims if you need it. Systems training your own your own again.

Be very careful joining compass if you have no experience. One doesn't want to fail initial training and have a record in their file.

Skywest and mesa have very good training. They really teach you and make the effort. Skywest by far has the best training. With skywest as long as they see you are trying and have a good attitude they will work with you and do their best to get you through the training. On the other hand Compass, gojet, and transtate mostly farm out their sim trainig from flight safety and really don't have any of their own sim instructors to teach you. And in their ground school the instructor just read out and goes very fast about systems so you have to be ahead of the game.

For prior 121 guys, military guys, it's a piece of cake, but for new hires of CFi background or part 135 guys flying cargo it might be a challenge.

Good luck


QUOTE=BeechPilot33;1857576]If a new-hire that has previous 500 hrs of 121 time gets awarded SEA how would the upgrade time look if hired in June-nov timeframe?

How are guys doing in system class and sim with self study course?
Originally Posted by 404yxl
Ignore this person. Most of what he said is incorrect. Compass doesn't farm out any training. All done in house, and they have a high pass rate close to 99% success. Training is AQP, so very hard to fail a checking event that goes on your record.

Plus, never take advice from someone with writing skills this atrocious.
I agree with 404yxl. A big part of why I see people struggling without being prior 121 is they don't take the home study seriously. Looking at your schedule once you are in training, its called "systems review". It's not meant to teach you from the ground up. That is what home study is for. You then take what you know from that, go into systems review and it should then all come together and make sense. If it does not, then ask. The instructors are all under an incredible amount of pressure right now with the amount of people going through, but not once did they not have time to review something or answer any questions that I had. And they were ALL Compass employees and pilots.

The program is more difficult if you were not prior 121, but it is by no means impossible. You might have to put in more time but thats why you are there, to study your ass off. I don't know an airline that doesn't expect you to know your callouts, profiles, and limitations cold. The less you know going into the sims, the more money and time you are wasting of that company.

Treat home study as a 9 to 5 job and not a 2 week vacation. Go to indoc 100% ready to go and you won't have any problems.
Old 04-07-2015 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl
Ignore this person. Most of what he said is incorrect. Compass doesn't farm out any training. All done in house, and they have a high pass rate close to 99% success. Training is AQP, so very hard to fail a checking event that goes on your record.

Plus, never take advice from someone with writing skills this atrocious.

This....100%


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