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Old 09-14-2015 | 12:50 PM
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10k isn't enough. Pay raise? flow program? affordable base? Then I may think about it..
Old 09-14-2015 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by hungarypilot
10k isn't enough. Pay raise? flow program? affordable base? Then I may think about it..
good luck with a 6 year cba that expires may 2020. only took them one year into it to already amend the compensation with a signing bonus because it sucked to begin with.
Old 09-14-2015 | 01:33 PM
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Why is year one pay so low?
Old 09-14-2015 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by FAAGoldSealCFI
Why is year one pay so low?
Because regional.
Old 09-14-2015 | 01:39 PM
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Like lower than pretty much everywhere? Same for per diem.
Old 09-14-2015 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by FAAGoldSealCFI
Like lower than pretty much everywhere? Same for per diem.
Don't believe everything you see on APC. The compensation was amended with the new (non concessionary) contract. You should also look into how much your medical would cost at other places etc.
The per diem raises 3 times throughout the life of our cba to $1.90 by the time it expires.
As for year 1 FO rates, that's a concession to let one small group get a 50% raise while everybody else gets QOL only. It's management trying to cheaply attract new hire pilots. So is a bonus for that matter. Compensation should be raised unilaterally - this in term will create a generous compensation package that will attract pilots. It also costs more money than any regional wants to pay. Skywest= no Union. It's why year 1 FO is so high. It's also why the E175 is paid less than the CRJ-900 LMAO
As for pay rates, a good comparison would be Skywest year 4 FO to Compass year 4 CA. Or try Endeavor year 7 FO to Compass year 7 CA (even throw their bonus in and see who's making out better... Hint it's not the FO).
Old 09-14-2015 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Rama04
Don't believe everything you see on APC. The compensation was amended with the new (non concessionary) contract. You should also look into how much your medical would cost at other places etc.
The per diem raises 3 times throughout the life of our cba to $1.90 by the time it expires.
As for year 1 FO rates, that's a concession to let one small group get a 50% raise while everybody else gets QOL only. It's management trying to cheaply attract new hire pilots. So is a bonus for that matter. Compensation should be raised unilaterally - this in term will create a generous compensation package that will attract pilots. It also costs more money than any regional wants to pay. Skywest= no Union. It's why year 1 FO is so high. It's also why the E175 is paid less than the CRJ-900 LMAO
As for pay rates, a good comparison would be Skywest year 4 FO to Compass year 4 CA. Or try Endeavor year 7 FO to Compass year 7 CA (even throw their bonus in and see who's making out better... Hint it's not the FO).
Cpz has like two 7 yr captains
Old 09-14-2015 | 05:23 PM
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Quick question: Thinking about bidding for MSP around December. Roughly how many lines were in the last bid? Flica was showing me around 12 from the bottom, you think that could be good enough for a line?
Old 09-14-2015 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rama04
Don't believe everything you see on APC. The compensation was amended with the new (non concessionary) contract. You should also look into how much your medical would cost at other places etc.
The per diem raises 3 times throughout the life of our cba to $1.90 by the time it expires.
As for year 1 FO rates, that's a concession to let one small group get a 50% raise while everybody else gets QOL only. It's management trying to cheaply attract new hire pilots. So is a bonus for that matter. Compensation should be raised unilaterally - this in term will create a generous compensation package that will attract pilots. It also costs more money than any regional wants to pay. Skywest= no Union. It's why year 1 FO is so high. It's also why the E175 is paid less than the CRJ-900 LMAO
As for pay rates, a good comparison would be Skywest year 4 FO to Compass year 4 CA. Or try Endeavor year 7 FO to Compass year 7 CA (even throw their bonus in and see who's making out better... Hint it's not the FO).
Didn't Compass just offer $10k signing bonuses? Where was ALPA on that one? Ive read both deals and unions have nothing to do with it. skyWest is just flat out better in every category, and with the quick upgrade gone at compass why would any newhire want to go there??
Old 09-14-2015 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by FAAGoldSealCFI
Didn't Compass just offer $10k signing bonuses? Where was ALPA on that one? Ive read both deals and unions have nothing to do with it. skyWest is just flat out better in every category, and with the quick upgrade gone at compass why would any newhire want to go there??
Because it's a good place to work?
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