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-   -   Compass or Endeavor??? (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/compass-airlines/86974-compass-endeavor.html)

Farmlover 05-23-2015 01:27 PM
Originally Posted by WakeTurby (Post 1887303)
Can I get a solid first year salary (after taxes) guesstimate for both Compass and Endeavor at 75hr min pay for budget planning purposes, please? (I've heard of adding the three zeros, but I figure that's before tax, right?) For the kind person who answers from Endeavor, please apply the fat tax on the $20k bonus, too. Thanks guys :confused:
Everyone's tax will be different. Almost 50k before tax at Endeavor.

404yxl 05-23-2015 01:29 PM
Originally Posted by WakeTurby (Post 1887303)
Can I get a solid first year salary (after taxes) guesstimate for both Compass and Endeavor at 75hr min pay for budget planning purposes, please? (I've heard of adding the three zeros, but I figure that's before tax, right?) For the kind person who answers from Endeavor, please apply the fat tax on the $20k bonus, too. Thanks guys :confused:
Why can't you use a tax estimator? You're asking others to do that for you, while you know your exact situation (state, other income, etc.)

If you have 0 121 time, you are probably better off going to Endeavor. Too many variables exist right now to say either one will be better. If you have 1000 121 or 135 time, then Compass.

legend 05-23-2015 04:10 PM
Go to Endeavor. $26/hr x75= $1950/mo + 400 per diem/mo + $20,000 in bonus /yr = $48,200 before taxes @75/hr guarantee. Interview with Delta/SSp for FOs as well. Upgrade will pick up as attrition continues.

WakeTurby 05-23-2015 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by 404yxl (Post 1887310)
Why can't you use a tax estimator? You're asking others to do that for you, while you know your exact situation (state, other income, etc.)

If you have 0 121 time, you are probably better off going to Endeavor. Too many variables exist right now to say either one will be better. If you have 1000 121 or 135 time, then Compass.
Sorry, I fat-fingered that. I completely meant to say before taxes.
Thanks for the responses. I'm essentially a zero 121 guy (min military PIC time). Any Compass folks able to chime in? Thanks again

cal555 05-23-2015 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by WakeTurby (Post 1887488)
Sorry, I fat-fingered that. I completely meant to say before taxes.
Thanks for the responses. I'm essentially a zero 121 guy (min military PIC time). Any Compass folks able to chime in? Thanks again
I'm holding MSP one month after IOE at Compass. So much movement in MSP right now that you could get it almost right out of training. For take home pay adding three zeroes to hourly is exactly what I'm making on first year FO pay after tax.
I'd say the only place that Endeavor has Compass beat is pay, and that won't last forever. You will have seniority quickly at Compass. Lifers almost do not exist here.

404yxl 05-23-2015 08:48 PM
Originally Posted by WakeTurby (Post 1887488)
Sorry, I fat-fingered that. I completely meant to say before taxes.
Thanks for the responses. I'm essentially a zero 121 guy (min military PIC time). Any Compass folks able to chime in? Thanks again
Originally Posted by cal555 (Post 1887495)
I'm holding MSP one month after IOE at Compass. So much movement in MSP right now that you could get it almost right out of training. For take home pay adding three zeroes to hourly is exactly what I'm making on first year FO pay after tax.
I'd say the only place that Endeavor has Compass beat is pay, and that won't last forever. You will have seniority quickly at Compass. Lifers almost do not exist here.
However, those starting with 0 121 time will have a lot of junior pilots to them upgrading at Compass. Meaning their upgrade time will actually increase due to it.

I'm Compass, but Endeavor might actually be your best bet unless Compass raises all of our pay and gives us a real pathway to a major. Endeavor is done shrinking for now since it can staff and pays more reasonably.

TalkTurkey 05-24-2015 04:11 PM
Originally Posted by 404yxl (Post 1887578)
However, those starting with 0 121 time will have a lot of junior pilots to them upgrading at Compass. Meaning their upgrade time will actually increase due to it.

I'm Compass, but Endeavor might actually be your best bet unless Compass raises all of our pay and gives us a real pathway to a major. Endeavor is done shrinking for now since it can staff and pays more reasonably.
Compass ain't ever gonna grow. Delta is going to start pulling your Ejets away real soon. Pinnacle tried new ventures and got erased. Compass will be next.

flyguy94 05-24-2015 04:22 PM
Originally Posted by TalkTurkey (Post 1888044)
Compass ain't ever gonna grow. Delta is going to start pulling your Ejets away real soon. Pinnacle tried new ventures and got erased. Compass will be next.
Compass is one of the cheapest carriers because of it's junior pilot group. Why would Delta give that up again? And just an FYI Compass IS growing right now at 2-3 planes per month through November.

TalkTurkey 05-24-2015 04:31 PM
Originally Posted by flyguy94 (Post 1888049)
Compass is one of the cheapest carriers because of it's junior pilot group. Why would Delta give that up again? And just an FYI Compass IS growing right now at 2-3 planes per month through November.
My comment is me flipping the script on the absolute moronic imbecile 404, whose divinity dictates the end of other regionals.

TheFly 05-24-2015 04:33 PM
SkyWest would be a good option for MSP as well as Compass. However, I have heard that Compass might be downsizing MSP.


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