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AlaskaBound 03-12-2015 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by whoareyou311 (Post 1841574)
I agree with all of the above. Endeavor would be better for your QOL. But you will upgrade faster at compass and most likely never see MSP as a pilot there as they continue to shrink DTW(closing in june) and MSP, and focus there operations out west. Commuting from MSP to the west coast I would think might provide some challenges but I am sure it can be done. To make up for not upgrading faster at Endeavor you have the retention bonus for the next 4 years which will make life much much easier and better for you. My advice go to the place where you don't have to commute. Commuting is the devil.

Absolutely false. Come on guys.
Most of the new hires are all from out west and want nothing to do with Minneapolis. A vast majority.
80% of the flows will be coming from MSP. That means anyone wanting MSP will get it by the time their out of the school house and done with IOE. We have official word that our MSP base will not be shrinking anymore.
Stop saying you can't hold MSP when that's absolutely not the case. Some of you over at Endeavor think you know what's up over here but you don't.

AlaskaBound 03-12-2015 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 1841651)
Skywest is probably the best bet if you want MSP and want a quick upgrade in QOL. I just don't see any new hires having any decent amount of QOL in MSP at Endeavor for at least a year, if not longer. There are a lot of people who were forced out of MSP to NY, you will continue to get bumped down by people returning and it is very possible you would be forced to NY. I don't think you can count on MSP, especially if you can't get the 200. The money is the only reason to come to 9E and/or if you live in NY and can get the 900. Or if you are gambling on a Delta interview. Things are better at 9E but the QOL/schedules get worse every month.

I totally agree with this comment. SkyWest is ALSO a great bet if you want quick upward movement and decent QOL right away. Although their pilot group is huge so it will take a lot longer to upgrade.
Endeavor is wholly owned and that's never been a good thing considering Delta's record of previous wholly owned airlines.

BlueMoon 03-12-2015 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by AlaskaBound (Post 1841737)
All of the DTW captains are eligible to flow within the next 9 months and I don't see anyone on the list that plans to stay with Compass.

Most, not all.

LostTime 03-12-2015 12:22 PM

Nope, that's 25 more downgrades at Endeavor. Probably be 9 yr Pinnacle guys. At least they get awesome senior FO schedules and LOA 50.

Nantonaku 03-12-2015 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by AlaskaBound (Post 1841746)
Absolutely false. Come on guys.
Most of the new hires are all from out west and want nothing to do with Minneapolis. A vast majority.
80% of the flows will be coming from MSP. That means anyone wanting MSP will get it by the time their out of the school house and done with IOE. We have official word that our MSP base will not be shrinking anymore.
Stop saying you can't hold MSP when that's absolutely not the case. Some of you over at Endeavor think you know what's up over here but you don't.

Funny, coming from you, the expert on 9E.

higney85 03-12-2015 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by pa28dakota (Post 1841723)
Wait...15-02 is out?! Ah, there it is...ok a little off topic. Net 25 CA positions open, but 50 FO positions open. Correct me if I am wrong, but since this is a realignment and not a vacancy that means 25 downgrades? Please tell me that logic is highly flawed.

No, that's FO openings for those in new hire training. They have to have somewhere to bid into, which will be the remaining open FO slots. It's net upgrades on 15-02.

gojo 03-12-2015 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by LostTime (Post 1841798)
Nope, that's 25 more downgrades at Endeavor. Probably be 9 yr Pinnacle guys. At least they get awesome senior FO schedules and LOA 50.

Who's looking at this wrong? I see positive movement on this realignment, not downgrades

tom14cat14 03-12-2015 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 1841836)
Who's looking at this wrong? I see positive movement on this realignment, not downgrades

I think people have forgotten how to read these without net downgrades. Now with the bloch award there could be some but who knows.

Farmlover 03-12-2015 02:57 PM

25 upgrades on new list, this is just the start

SongMan 03-12-2015 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Farmlover (Post 1841863)
25 upgrades on new list, this is just the start

For which airline?


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