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Old 06-06-2016, 06:08 PM
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Oh my god only 1.7% of the FOs can upgrade this month? This place is going to hell in a handbasket!
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Old 06-06-2016, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SigHansen View Post
Everything Da40Pilot said was pretty much fact.

In 2019: 1700 pilots are required to retire in just a 12 month span. That's only from AA DAL UAL and assuming no pilots would retire early.

In 2021: 2200 pilots are required to retire in just a 12 month span. Again, only AA DAL UAL.

Fedex already made public they're hiring prior to the wave coming.

So explain to me, JohnDoe, again why are you criticizing how long Da40Pilot has been in the airline biz?
How did I criticize him by asking how long he's been doing this? Simple question, simple answer, zero criticism...
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Old 06-06-2016, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SigHansen View Post
"I'll believe it when I see it" is appropriate here...

On March 3, 2016 we were told the following.
"The good news is we don’t expect to solicit very long. We have the ability to train 24 captains a month and will be upgrading 24 captains a month indefinitely so that we can meet our own expectations in regards to adequate staffing and reserve coverage. This should lower our upgrade times quite significantly."

Well today our Captain vacancy was 6. And I believe we are missing a vacancy from two weeks ago mid May.

So what happened to "24 captains a month indefinitely". I think the email from the GM of Crew Planning was told by higher ups to send and email and state specifically what he was told to. I think some c**p is about come roll downhill.
It was only a single class, there can still be more classes for the same month. As it is each vacancy bid has only been for 10-12 at a time. At least we are still upgrading and it doesn't come to a halt. They have hardly no sim time available which is also a problem.
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Old 06-06-2016, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnDoe View Post
It was only a single class, there can still be more classes for the same month. As it is each vacancy bid has only been for 10-12 at a time. At least we are still upgrading and it doesn't come to a halt. They have hardly no sim time available which is also a problem.
In the next few weeks and definitely by the beginning of next bid period, the first 24 Captains' bid periods will come online from when the announcement was made, and they will be spread out across all bases - and the next month will be proceeded by another 24 or so. 80% of the new Captains awarded upgrades are August 2015 hires and later.

It truly sucks for those that only want to fly 75 hours, but, it is my opinion, although I may be wrong, that the company will not risk lowering the CA floor to 75 with the busy summer season, or going green on the reserve grid because all that is going to do is cause people to drop their lines below minimums and there's going to be an insane amount of open time - something the company probably can't afford to play Russian roulette with - and not with the 20 new daily AA departures they are adding out of the box.

They said on the latest e-mail that the 24 "indefinite" upgrades was to staff the company up for the busy summer season, which is why they timed it for all these extra Captains to start coming online now.

The 6 new slots appear to be solely for attrition.

Now, some people have moved bases, while some people have left for greener pastures (the attrition has been lower than expected)- but also note that when an MSP vacancy opens, it's the equivalent of adding those slots to LAX because only senior people go to MSP.

Eventually, as we add more flying to our current fleet and attrition picks up, so will the upgrades (obviously...) - but it appears the 24 upgrade/month bandwagon has come and gone, at least for a while, otherwise, they wouldn't have written the E-mail the way they did, or sent it the way they did. You may disagree, but, Compass is known for sending out very few communications like those, but when they do, it's either to announce something major or that of the opposite effect.

And, to answer your question, a little under 2 years.
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Old 06-07-2016, 01:00 AM
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Heard that 10 more (SLIP) instructors were hired starting July. I can't imagine things slowing down too much if so many instructors were just added to the schoolhouse.
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Old 06-07-2016, 11:26 AM
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Hi Guys,

I'm looking into Compass, I'm available to start in December. Any ideas when I should start applying? I don't want to apply too early.

Thanks
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Old 06-07-2016, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AVIATOR3 View Post
Hi Guys,

I'm looking into Compass, I'm available to start in December. Any ideas when I should start applying? I don't want to apply too early.

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Roughly two month prior to meeting your respective ATP/rATP mins.
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Old 06-07-2016, 07:22 PM
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Old 06-07-2016, 07:47 PM
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Class of 9 going on this week..
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LGARunway44 View Post
Roughly two month prior to meeting your respective ATP/rATP mins.
I meet them now by a lot, its just that I am currently under contract. Would you still recommend 2 months before?

Thank you for your answer.
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