They just finalized our flow to the Air Force, contingent on agreement by some guy name Kim. Best part, everyone already got on the seniority list when they turned 18.

 

That explains the F-22s!

 

I still am curious if this is fabricated or if you have a source...may be good for west coasters but like another pilot said Hawaiian offers me nothing as well. Had several friends leave who got island fever, started commuting, and couldn't handle the horrible widebody pay compared to other widebody carriers...

 

why on earth would we get a flow to Hawaiian?

 

Why not? It would benefit both airlines. Hawaiian doesn't hire a bunch so it wouldn't be a burden on us. Yet it would be guaranteed movement off the top (expensive captains) and a recruiting tool for hiring. It's a win win. Wait for it....

 

What about the southwest flow?!? Same logic right

 

They typically hire in bigger chunks. We'd need to hook up with an airline then hires less and in smaller chunks.

 

We're getting F-35s and A-10s. CAP lost the bid on the A-10. And we're going to destroy our competition. They'll be blown away by our 30mm rotatry cannon. Delta will bring back flow since we'll be military guys.

Top that rumor

 

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First off if you think the top of the list would go to Hawaiian your sorely mistaken...the mix of ATA guys who are older and other senior pilots who are on there second or third regional will more than likely stay put until either they retire or get picked up by a legacy, that is a fact. Most of your senior pilots don't live on the coast and are based in MSP (they'll go to Sun Country), or have a good QOL and don't want to A commute and B take massive pay cut to fly a widebody at a excessively low industry rate for that category of airplane.

Your expensive quote of the senior captains isn't relevant either, especially if compared to other regional airline pilot groups. Our average seniority on the captain side is probably sitting around 2.5-3 years...which I'm willing to bet is one of the lowest in the US regional airline industry.

This would benefit your mid-junior captains and FO's, who all live on the west coast. I bet you would be surprised at how many senior pilots would bypass the flow if it was instituted...

I think it would help but only if you were a new pilot who wanted to work at Hawaiian...otherwise go to 9E, Envoy, or somewhere else and get guaranteed money and a shot at a legacy in the same amount of time...