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Old 06-22-2017 | 03:57 PM
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Get Global Entry paid for like Envoy gets.
Old 06-22-2017 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AirBat
I mean, we can do literally zip about compensation until the CBA is amendable, unless they approach us and if they do we have very little leverage turning down 1st year pay increases if we want to get out of here. The last LOA actually Lets them raise 1st year pay again if they wanted without our permission.
Up to $41/ hour if my interpretation of it is correct. So if they intend to raise it above $41 within the 36 months the company will have to negotiate.
Old 06-22-2017 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by veewan
Up to $41/ hour if my interpretation of it is correct. So if they intend to raise it above $41 within the 36 months the company will have to negotiate.
There will be a big IOCC grievance settlement coming too at some point...I'm sure the company will be looking to negotiate in regards to that as well, there will be a lot on the table in regards to that grievance, they knowingly violated multiple sections of the CBA...the union is in a very good spot to negotiate
Old 06-22-2017 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverFlexTO
There will be a big IOCC grievance settlement coming too at some point...I'm sure the company will be looking to negotiate in regards to that as well, there will be a lot on the table in regards to that grievance, they knowingly violated multiple sections of the CBA...the union is in a very good spot to negotiate
This is probably one of the better barganing chips, but the fact that they knowingly violated multiple sections means that they are going to be slow to negotiate. Everything will happen at the last possible moment.
Old 06-22-2017 | 10:50 PM
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So what our small gift that we receive according to MEMO 17-0010
Water bottle. The hilarity of the underlining meaning has me lmao..ing.
Old 06-23-2017 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
Dont be fooled by payrates. I can attest that they do in fact get more. Nearly double what our PAYS is on performance, and profit sharing is thousands annualy. 100% DH, higher per diem, higher min day, leg-by-leg CX pay, everyone gets a 4hr holiday pay whether they work that day or not. Health insurance savings of potentially thousands annually. Sick-time that you dont have to be sick to actually use, and you can use that bank to pay for singular off days or dropping, our cash out when you leave. Vacation can be accrued, unlike here where you're forced to use it that year (wait til upgrade and vacation value doubles), 100% 401k match starting 4%, 1.95% of income doesn't go to ALPA, Medical and Passport reimbursement.

Compass we have 4 commuter hotels, paid out of base parking, international customs credit.

My point isnt to spread negativity, just to bring awareness to how much needs catching up next contract.
Skywest may make a few more bucks but I got capt before my buddy with same hire date at Skywest so now I'm logging pic and making more. Each situation and timing is unique but food for thought.
Old 06-23-2017 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Weekendsoff
Skywest may make a few more bucks but I got capt before my buddy with same hire date at Skywest so now I'm logging pic and making more. Each situation and timing is unique but food for thought.


Yeah but now their upgrades are shorter than ours, probably way shorter . So yeah, timing is everything.


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Old 06-23-2017 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingak
Yeah but now their upgrades are shorter than ours, probably way shorter . So yeah, timing is everything.


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Yup. The take home though is that for same seat/same longevity, if there are improvements, people will be happier should there ever be stagnation again. The reason people say not to chase an upgrade is that although SkyWest may be quicker now, in time it'll be longer. It's all part of the regional cycle.

I know people might have been shocked to see an FO left Compass for Ameriflight, but I think it tells you that the reserve rules need to be improved. My thought is that person weighed the options of sitting reserve vs going and flying their tail off for more $. Sure 12 months on reserve is not long when you compare it historically- especially with recent memory of the lost decade, but in an era where folks can walk off IOE into a line elsewhere why would they delay their career? They came to build experience, not to get onto this seniority list for a permanent gig.
Old 06-23-2017 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by middies10
Water bottle. The hilarity of the underlining meaning has me lmao..ing.
Water bottle and a challenge coin celebrating 10 years of Compass Airline
Old 06-23-2017 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingak
Yeah but now their upgrades are shorter than ours, probably way shorter . So yeah, timing is everything.


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Yeah right! Quick upgrade if you take the CRJ over their Midwest bases. How about compare upgrade time for their LAX or SEA base, I would be interested to see.
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