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Old 08-28-2017, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Fpmx772
Soooooooo what happened to the "we are being picky about who we hire". Just because someone has 121 experience doesn't mean they are better than some 1500hr CFI person


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The expidited hiring (for 121 current pilots) and the company's desperation to have people participate in the vaccination buyback is the proof in the pudding that we ain't being picky.
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Old 08-28-2017, 07:47 PM
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Is this not a blatant contract violation?? For those who may not be able to read it is essentially stating they will not release reserve buffers which essentially means they can deny any and all drop requests at their will.
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Old 08-28-2017, 08:18 PM
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Is this not a blatant [toilet paper] violation?? For those who may not be able to read it is essentially stating they will not release reserve buffers which essentially means they can deny any and all drop requests at their will.
Changed it to how they see it.

"The Company shall maintain a real-time Availability List for Reserve Pilots and Build-Up Pilots for each Base, via the Reserve Pilot Preference System, for review by Pilots. In addition, for each award or assignment affecting the Availability List, the Availability List for the affected Position as it existed immediately prior to the award or assignment shall be archived electronically. ALPA shall be provided continuous electronic access to the Availability Lists on a read-only basis, with ability to print on ALPA printers. Note: The technology referenced in this paragraph U.8. has not been developed as of the date of signing of this Agreement, but the parties agree to develop such a system in a reasonable time frame following the date of signing."

Define reasonable time?
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Old 08-28-2017, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by veewan
Changed it to how they see it.



"The Company shall maintain a real-time Availability List for Reserve Pilots and Build-Up Pilots for each Base, via the Reserve Pilot Preference System, for review by Pilots. In addition, for each award or assignment affecting the Availability List, the Availability List for the affected Position as it existed immediately prior to the award or assignment shall be archived electronically. ALPA shall be provided continuous electronic access to the Availability Lists on a read-only basis, with ability to print on ALPA printers. Note: The technology referenced in this paragraph U.8. has not been developed as of the date of signing of this Agreement, but the parties agree to develop such a system in a reasonable time frame following the date of signing."



Define reasonable time?


Doesn't this refer to the availability list not the actual buffer? I know the company is supposed to provide a real time availability list which everyday that goes by is a contract violation because the list provided is not real time. But I didn't know the company had to actually provide us buffer information.


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Old 08-28-2017, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Fpmx772
Doesn't this refer to the availability list not the actual buffer? I know the company is supposed to provide a real time availability list which everyday that goes by is a contract violation because the list provided is not real time. But I didn't know the company had to actually provide us buffer information.


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"The Company will not deny a Schedule Adjustment Request unless it violates the Agreement, the FARs, or the provisions listed below:

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A swap or drop request will be granted unless its approval would result in an inadequate level of Reserve coverage on any day that the dropped Trip operates.

Note: The Company retains the right to set the minimum Reserve standard for each day, provided that the Company shall establish such standards at a reasonable level."

Again, define reasonable level. If pilots are not allowed access to that data, we cannot hold the company accountable. But it makes my point that TSH reads contract as toilet paper.
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Old 08-28-2017, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by veewan
"The Company will not deny a Schedule Adjustment Request unless it violates the Agreement, the FARs, or the provisions listed below:



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A swap or drop request will be granted unless its approval would result in an inadequate level of Reserve coverage on any day that the dropped Trip operates.



Note: The Company retains the right to set the minimum Reserve standard for each day, provided that the Company shall establish such standards at a reasonable level."



Again, define reasonable level. If pilots are not allowed access to that data, we cannot hold the company accountable. But it makes my point that TSH reads contract as toilet paper.


Totally agree. However, does the contract say they need to provide us with buffer info? I know it says the will provide us rsv Availability info, but not sure about buffer info....then again, I'm not a contract guru


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Old 08-28-2017, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GoHomeLeg
Section 25.B.1. - The Company will employ a sufficient number of Pilots to cover all known Flying, vacation, sick leave, scheduled training, Company-related business, known leaves of absence and other known unavailabilities, and staff the operation so as not to unduly disrupt the schedules of Lineholders and will maintain an adequate number of Reserves to cover unforeseen operational needs, to avoid the frequent modification of schedules of Lineholders, and to avoid excessive junior manning.



Guess the latest memo means it is time to file yet another grievance. Maybe we can get some compensatory days off. I'll have them add mine so they touch my vacation.


Question is, will everyone fly it now and grieve it later if their vaca gets taken away? Or will people actually not show up and go on their vaca?


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Old 08-28-2017, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Fpmx772
Question is, will everyone fly it now and grieve it later if their vaca gets taken away? Or will people actually not show up and go on their vaca?


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Accidentally deleted my post when I tried to edit it. Guess it's time for bed. Anyways, that's the question. Personally, I think the only mechanism the contract has to "postpone" (cancel) vacations is junior manning (I'm probably wrong though). Either way my commitments to my family comes before my commitments to this company. We already sacrifice enough for this job. Threatening us to carry the burden for the mistakes of those in headquarters (they definitely won't be giving up their vacation) is ridiculous. I know what I'll be doing if they try playing this game.
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Old 08-28-2017, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GoHomeLeg
Accidentally deleted my post when I tried to edit it. Guess it's time for bed. Anyways, that's the question. Personally, I think the only mechanism the contract has to "postpone" (cancel) vacations is junior manning (I'm probably wrong though). Either way my commitments to my family comes before my commitments to this company. We already sacrifice enough for this job. Threatening us to carry the burden for the mistakes of those in headquarters (they definitely won't be giving up their vacation) is ridiculous. I know what I'll be doing if they try playing this game.


I know life isn't fair but I feel it is u fair to punish the pilot group for mistakes made by management. Every single pilot here knows that it was the worst idea for the company to stop upgrading and hiring and now we are potentially paying the price with our vacation. 150% for a buy back on our earned vacation is a slap on the face. If you want my vacation time back then step up to the plate and offer me something I can't resist, like 300%, not this garbage 150!


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Old 08-28-2017, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Fpmx772
I know life isn't fair but I feel it is u fair to punish the pilot group for mistakes made by management. Every single pilot here knows that it was the worst idea for the company to stop upgrading and hiring and now we are potentially paying the price with our vacation. 150% for a buy back on our earned vacation is a slap on the face. If you want my vacation time back then step up to the plate and offer me something I can't resist, like 300%, not this garbage 150!


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Agreed 100%. They're unlikely to come back with a price high enough to make me consider it but it doesn't hurt them to try.
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