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Old 06-20-2019, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LowerLoon185 View Post
They are nearing retirement. Chief Pilot and #2 are both in their 60's...my contact says they want more time off and looking to "wind down." One has been with the family 30+ and the other has been 25+.
To this point....this means that “dad” (owner) is quite old, then, I’d wager. What happens when he dies?
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Old 06-21-2019, 05:39 AM
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To this point....this means that “dad” (owner) is quite old, then, I’d wager. What happens when he dies?
I'll be meeting with the CP next month...I'll definitely get the details of how its structured and if there is a continuity plan. My understanding is that the Lear has been rolled into one of the Family's companies and is a listed asset. That is not the case for the 900....so who knows. Even the Lear though, companies can dump an airplane at any time. I'll get the info. Thank you.
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Old 06-21-2019, 06:06 AM
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It today’s world of pilot hiring, departments going under only means another opportunity. Corporate jobs go begging, pay offers are going up, lots of opportunities. Take the job, get a few hundred hours of jet time, then decide. It’s pretty riskless.

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Old 06-21-2019, 06:41 AM
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If your goal is a major airline, then go to a regional. You will not build time quickly at a 91 gig. Let someone who wants to stay corporate have this one.
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Old 06-21-2019, 03:31 PM
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As another poster said, take the job and get the experience. I have 3 bizjet type ratings and don’t regret my 91/135 time.

I’ve recently made the leap to a 121 supplemental to check the 121/heavy box on my resume. I had no 121 time, but I felt a little better in class when I was the only one who knew how to pick up an oceanic clearance and had seen a plotting chart.

It sounds like you may have a good opportunity. I personally feel a little better knowing I have some my corp experience in my background in case the 121 thing doesn’t work out. I figure I could always find some kind of flying job to keep the lights on if the proverbial ****e hits the fan.

All the comments made by the experienced corp pilots on here are very valid. I learned to start asking the right questions. How many pilots are there? If the person says only two then my next question is schedule and vacation. One guy stated to say “well the plane goes down for maintenance every February...” Click....

The age of the owner is also important as others have mentioned. One company I interviewed for (hotel chain) had an owner who was in his 80s. The family has always had a jet since the 1970s. They were quick to mention the owner’s son was being “primed” to takeover the business. He was already starting to use the family jet more and more.

I know someone who has a really great 91 gig (flys a few days a month, $200K/yr) but the owner is pushing 90. He already knows the plane will be sold when the owner dies. He’s negotiated a severance and any type rating of his choice paid for by the estate when the day comes. I thought that was pretty smart and fair to both parties.

People would kill for your opportunity. Go have some fun and get the experience. I don’t think it will derail your path to the majors. Depending on your schedule/expectations, you may be able to contract fly on the side to make extra money and build time faster if that’s your goal.

Best of luck to you.
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Old 06-24-2019, 08:43 AM
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Thanks again everyone for the advice and heads up. I've got a list of questions to cover with the CP next month. Keeping my fingers crossed, but my eyes wide open.
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Old 06-25-2019, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LowerLoon185 View Post
I'm under the impression that at least some of the flying is done under 135 because he mentioned "IFR 135 minimums" for PIC. I may have that wrong though.
IFR 135 minimums for PIC? In a turbojet airplane?
Would you like to double check that?
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Old 06-26-2019, 02:54 AM
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The company could be following 135 guidelines for safety and not really doing 135 trips.
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Old 06-26-2019, 05:17 AM
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The company could be following 135 guidelines for safety and not really doing 135 trips.
That's my understanding. It's just an internal guideline/hurdle for looking at and training a new SIC. May be insurance driven, but i'll find out more next month. 5 years ago they were looking for college degree, ATP, 2000 hours TPIC for this job. Most junior guy in the job is a 45 year old ex-airforce B52 guy. Whole new world now.

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