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Old 05-08-2009 | 02:26 PM
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GOOD LORD PEOPLE, don't you think the guy would have called directly if he had a way of calling???? Just give him the juicy if you have it. If not, shut up.

Jeez.....
Here's the juicy:

How about investing a few bucks in an NBAA guide to every participating corporate operator in existence, including Chief Pilot/DO names, numbers, emails, etc. Pick up the phone (remember that thing that dials people?) and say "Hey Budweiser dude Chief Pilot, are ya hiring?, and can I send ya a resume?"

Job search 101 today - get the hell off the internet and go meet some people. Its slightly competitive out there right now.

good luck otherwise.

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Old 05-14-2009 | 01:13 PM
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I have also heard that they are shutting down their flight department. I've heard that InBev is destroying that company and shutting down anything that isn't necessary, including the Anheuser Busch farm.
Hey everyone...thanks to everyone for the info. Terrible news about the AB flight department. When I lived in St. Louis, this was the absolute BEST company and the BEST flying job in the world....PERIOD! What a shame!

As far as the "getting off the internet" and using the phone, etc. for a job search...I do appreciate the information, however it is not relevant in my case. It has been a long time since I have flown any corporate, and I am not looking for a job anymore, therefore I have no use for an NBAA list, networking, etc.

Did all the networking, phoning, etc. years ago when I went from corporate to the regionals and on to Southwest. Hopefully the next job I will interview for will be in about 15 years or so when I move on to be a Wal Mart greeter!

I truly was just interested in the people I knew a long time ago that worked there. Absolutely nothing else! Hate to see what is happening everywhere in corporate aviation these days. Best of luck to everyone!

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Old 05-14-2009 | 04:15 PM
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[quote=mesasurvivor;610766] When I lived in St. Louis, this was the absolute BEST company and the BEST flying job in the world....PERIOD! What a shame!
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Now Im curious, what made it the "BEST"?
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Old 05-14-2009 | 05:43 PM
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Very good pay, very well maintained aircraft, very well staffed, no charter.

That flight department was so well run that even line service was a good, well paid position.

And free beer.
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Old 05-14-2009 | 06:16 PM
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Very good pay, very well maintained aircraft, very well staffed, no charter.

That flight department was so well run that even line service was a good, well paid position.

And free beer.

Ok, lots of flight departments have that. I guess the free beer separates them from the rest...
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Old 05-14-2009 | 07:09 PM
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I viewed them as pretty much even with 2 other flight departments on the field.
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Old 05-16-2009 | 08:15 PM
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I hear these words "dream job" so often thrown around, seriously....when you can turn right at the top of the steps and not left anymore and grab a napkin that has a N number and your initals at the end....thats a "dream job" ....life is way to short to be sitting in a seat for years talking about the same hotels, meals and war stories....all the while transporting other people to their dreams......If you call a dream job, on call your whole life, paycheck JOB (Just Over Broke), politics and living in your CP's world, hotel bars, the same food chains, the same patronizing smile from the middle managers and VP's who point at you and are soooo proud of themselves for remembering your name, cleaning cabins and listening to your fellow pilots dismantle the reg's and safety protocol with conviction and the hope of nobody finds out that they are sooooo lucky to have that job because they would never make it anywhere else....

this is not to insult anybody, but my dreams are much bigger
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Old 05-16-2009 | 08:43 PM
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6 figures and no on-call sounds like a good living to me. I know a few that have retired from A-B and spoke quite highly of it before In-Bev came along and gutted the whole company.

I bet you're a gem to share a cockpit with.
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Old 05-19-2009 | 06:45 PM
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I hear these words "dream job" so often thrown around, seriously....when you can turn right at the top of the steps and not left anymore and grab a napkin that has a N number and your initals at the end....thats a "dream job" ....life is way to short to be sitting in a seat for years talking about the same hotels, meals and war stories....all the while transporting other people to their dreams......If you call a dream job, on call your whole life, paycheck JOB (Just Over Broke), politics and living in your CP's world, hotel bars, the same food chains, the same patronizing smile from the middle managers and VP's who point at you and are soooo proud of themselves for remembering your name, cleaning cabins and listening to your fellow pilots dismantle the reg's and safety protocol with conviction and the hope of nobody finds out that they are sooooo lucky to have that job because they would never make it anywhere else....

this is not to insult anybody, but my dreams are much bigger
Your dreams are bigger?.. yet you take the time to post this rant on a pilot message board...

sounds like your dreams are still far from taking a left at the top of the stairs, nevermind a right...

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Old 05-20-2009 | 06:19 PM
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I guarantee I have turned left mort often than you and I'm on my way to turning right $$... did the facts of my post strike a nerve...those are the realities of corp. flying. Im sorry that it offended you but I dont see any corp. flying job as a "dream job" I see flying corp. jobs as overworked, underpaid, and underappreciated, it may be different in your eyes....
I often wonder why pilots find it a moral and vital imparitive to be right about everything. I figured out a few things.. in every fbo, every pilot you talk to has the BEST job with flying the BEST a/c and the BEST future, quite comical, very compeitive work group with little grasp on the finacial and personal implications of a corp. job. If the best part of your job is the hotel points and high priced dinners and corp. expense...not to dreamy.
I found it very unispiring to be out on the road with people you have not to much in common, seeing things without your family wasnt very much fun...and stuffing myself at a high priced bistro with the same clothes on for 2-3 days got old real quick.. I can paint a rosy picture for you and make you feel better but what am I saying that YOU have not b*tched about a thousand times to your spouse or co-workers. If you deny it your a LIAR plane and simple I have been with a thousand crews and its all the same conversation, food, war stories, then griping....every once and a while you'll find someone who likes boats and that makes for a quick ride...at least 121 you may no see the SOB again but 91 Oooh the landmines and brownnosing.. I saw in 91, it wasnt how good you were, it was how bad the other guy was compared to you....good day
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