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Old 05-06-2010 | 04:22 PM
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My flight department just acquired a Citation ISP with the FJ44 Eagle modification and a few of us are finishing up school. I'd appreciate any operating information you may have on the aircraft (flight planning, maintenance, actual minimum runway used, thoughts on having no thrust reversers, etc).

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Old 05-06-2010 | 06:15 PM
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I don't know anything about Sierra modded airplanes, and haven't flown a Citation 500.

That said, going from a Citation II with TRs to our CJ2+, I don't miss the reversers in day-to-day operations...although admittedly knowing they're there would give me warm fuzzies on short/contaminated runways.
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Old 05-07-2010 | 05:21 AM
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I have never flown the 500 either, but I have gobs of time in a II and we had 2 runways we used regularly(SP) that I felt we needed the reversers. Most airports it's a non issue with the low REF speeds of a straight wing citation.

I talked to a crew in Denver a few years back in a williams powered 500 and they had nothing but good things to say about the conversion. Good luck with the new plane
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Old 06-19-2010 | 12:13 PM
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I fly/manage a 501 Eagle II as well. Let me know if you want to compare notes or ask each other questions.

How do you like the jet so far?
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Old 06-23-2010 | 04:36 PM
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I would enjoy hearing your thoughts on what speeds you use for short range/long range flights, expected fuel burns, etc. Unfortunately I am unable to PM.
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Old 06-23-2010 | 05:44 PM
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365-385 Cruise depending on Altitude. Will rarely see over M .65 in cruise.
I think the Eagle mod. creates a noticeable buffet above M.66 on descent.

Climb rate...phenomenal....4-5k/min. depending on temp/weight/climb profile..but I usually fly in warmer temps and near max weight. I had some of my IOE with a Bravo pilot who said they were comparable in performance in climb.

This is one Citation I you can do 250 KIAS on departure (below 10k), keep up with the most others, and still get 3k-4k/min climb rate.

Not really any need to step climb unless heavy and hot. Usually climb right to 390-430. Easier if you use the Eagle Long range profile found in the Eagle OPS manual. I don't think Sierra has published an Eagle II Ops. manual yet. Sierra doesn't really have it all together with all the performance data. From what I've seen the long range and normal cruise are all the same at FL430.

First hour expect at least 1200 lbs/hr, second 850-900, thereafter...800-900 (if you are at FL 400-430)

Descent. Unfortunately still a Citation I and Mmo still at .705 Even though you and the guys behind you really want you to go faster

Short field performance is incredible. Vref very low. I don't have anti-skid, nor do I feel I need it. With ground idle and super low touchdown speeds, landing distance is a joke.

Full fuel range, no wind.......maybe 1500 miles.

Im on PPW (Pro Pilot World) as Krusty if you want to PM me. If you aren't, join.
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