Lockdown and Civil Unrest Discussion
05-02-2020, 08:36 PM
#281
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Comparing DAILY DEATH TOLLS? You are kidding, right? With the exception of India, we have MASSIVELY MORE PEOPLE than the other countries on your graph.
The UK? 68 million
Canada? 38 million
Norway? 5.4 million
why would it come as a surprise to you that we would have more total deaths from this disease than countries with from a fifth to a sixtieth of our population?
The UK? 68 million
Canada? 38 million
Norway? 5.4 million
why would it come as a surprise to you that we would have more total deaths from this disease than countries with from a fifth to a sixtieth of our population?
05-02-2020, 09:18 PM
#282
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
Insurrection isn't "extreme" it is in fact what this country was founded on.
05-02-2020, 09:36 PM
#283
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India and China are both on that daily deaths chart.
05-02-2020, 09:47 PM
#284
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
India and China are both on that daily deaths chart.
05-02-2020, 10:06 PM
#285
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Originally Posted by Generic Pilot
You're just saying what, that you put trust into a known right wing propaganda site?
It wasn't long ago the conspiracies against the right-wing seemed more plausible ( the neocon adgena, never ending war on terror for oil companies, the 2004 election al gore lost)
Nowadays seems like some of the claims against the left really are turning out to have some merit. We have seen a frightening erosion of civil liberties at breakneck speed that should have any person who considers themselves patriotic to be concerned. Not to mention a media that has become completely biased while pretending it is fair and neutral
05-03-2020, 01:01 AM
#286
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
Everyone in the world is going to get this virus. 10 times more contagious than the flu? Everyone wearing masks? Social distancing? That’s great until we all touch the same door, key pad, or gas pump.
The curve has been sufficiently flattened as to not overwhelm the hospitals. We have enough PPE and vents. Those who are most at risk for CV complications have a much better shot at beating this now than ever. Over 99% of infected people recover. Unfortunately, we will continue to lose our most vulnerable. We know who they are and we should protect them and they should protect themselves. But global quality of life is about to find out the hard way what damage this massive overreaction caused.
The curve has been sufficiently flattened as to not overwhelm the hospitals. We have enough PPE and vents. Those who are most at risk for CV complications have a much better shot at beating this now than ever. Over 99% of infected people recover. Unfortunately, we will continue to lose our most vulnerable. We know who they are and we should protect them and they should protect themselves. But global quality of life is about to find out the hard way what damage this massive overreaction caused.
05-03-2020, 01:35 AM
#287
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Originally Posted by TimetoClimb
Why not just read the article and come up with your own conclusions instead of trashing it because it doesn't fit the mainstream narrative.
It wasn't long ago the conspiracies against the right-wing seemed more plausible ( the neocon adgena, never ending war on terror for oil companies, the 2004 election al gore lost)
Nowadays seems like some of the claims against the left really are turning out to have some merit. We have seen a frightening erosion of civil liberties at breakneck speed that should have any person who considers themselves patriotic to be concerned. Not to mention a media that has become completely biased while pretending it is fair and neutral
It wasn't long ago the conspiracies against the right-wing seemed more plausible ( the neocon adgena, never ending war on terror for oil companies, the 2004 election al gore lost)
Nowadays seems like some of the claims against the left really are turning out to have some merit. We have seen a frightening erosion of civil liberties at breakneck speed that should have any person who considers themselves patriotic to be concerned. Not to mention a media that has become completely biased while pretending it is fair and neutral
Oh, and Tin Foil is in isle 5.
05-03-2020, 04:34 AM
#288
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
India and China are both on that daily deaths chart.
05-03-2020, 06:17 AM
#289
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Originally Posted by Stan446
A voice of reason? No way. Too bad the rest of society doesn't have the same mindset. I was just thinking how in 2-3 years or more we can look at wikipedia and see the big scare Covid 19 wasn't.
Sad that many pilots have likely flown their last trips and just don’t realize it yet. The furloughs that result from this are going to disrupt the lives of many many pilots and their families. Livelihoods will be lost and irreparable damage to careers will occur due to the hysteria caused by something that amounts to the Flu. Good luck going forward.
05-03-2020, 07:47 AM
#290
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So, I started this saga off with a firm belief that most of us are going to get it, and it's a matter of flattening that curve so our hospital resources aren't overwhelmed. But that most of us will get it and that's inevitable.
Watching data come in from AKL and SYD however, I'm starting to doubt that. South Australia is reporting only seven active COVID-19 cases at this point, and is on track to become COVID free if that keeps up. New Zealand has had less than ten cases a day since mid-April, and also likely on track to get that quashed if they keep their measures in place.
Doesn't sound necessarily impossible to me anymore to say that we can reduce the number of cases that we will have in total significantly. Just that we don't prioritize that as a nation, and consider this acceptable collateral damage, which everyone has their own opinion on. What am I missing here?
Watching data come in from AKL and SYD however, I'm starting to doubt that. South Australia is reporting only seven active COVID-19 cases at this point, and is on track to become COVID free if that keeps up. New Zealand has had less than ten cases a day since mid-April, and also likely on track to get that quashed if they keep their measures in place.
Doesn't sound necessarily impossible to me anymore to say that we can reduce the number of cases that we will have in total significantly. Just that we don't prioritize that as a nation, and consider this acceptable collateral damage, which everyone has their own opinion on. What am I missing here?
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