Originally Posted by WutFace

You have any evidence for this claim? Or is this purely based on a hunch?

Have you ever seen the aftermath of a wildfire? It doesn't burn in a straight line, nor does it burn 100% of the trees and grass. It's splotchy. It burns in waves and changes directions with the winds.

And that's how this virus will spread without intervention. COVID-19 hotspots will travel in waves across the country, hitting and re-hitting the same towns over again. Skipping regions completely only to double back the next season. The idea that "everyone will eventually be infected" will take years. What you think is faster will be much slower, and much more deadly. There's not a single reputable expert on the planet that will advocate for the 'let it ride' zero intervention approach.

Originally Posted by Av8rPHX

They will never admit they might have gotten it wrong. That would be career/political suicide.


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Originally Posted by Anson Harris

How did you feel about the internment of Japanese citizens after Pearl Harbor? Reasonable precaution based on the evidence?

Originally Posted by badflaps

It didn't help when Japanese-Americans hid shot down Zero pilot on Dec. 7.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

Was that the guy who crashed on a remote island which didn't have radio comms with Oahu? If so, the locals didn't know there was a war on until a couple days later.

Originally Posted by WutFace

So if COVID-19 gets to 648,000 deaths this year, including all the mitigation efforts we've done, then will it be justified?

What is your personal death threshold for action?

Originally Posted by WutFace

You have any evidence for this claim? Or is this purely based on a hunch?

Have you ever seen the aftermath of a wildfire? It doesn't burn in a straight line, nor does it burn 100% of the trees and grass. It's splotchy. It burns in waves and changes directions with the winds.

And that's how this virus will spread without intervention. COVID-19 hotspots will travel in waves across the country, hitting and re-hitting the same towns over again. Skipping regions completely only to double back the next season. The idea that "everyone will eventually be infected" will take years. What you think is faster will be much slower, and much more deadly. There's not a single reputable expert on the planet that will advocate for the 'let it ride' zero intervention approach.

Originally Posted by WutFace

I've started to notice a disturbing change in the "back to work" crowd. There's been a evolution in your grievances that now any measures to slow or contain the virus are futile and overreaching, and you will not be satisfied unless we return to exactly the way things were before the Coronavirus ever crossed from bat to human.

That's just simply the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You are no longer about "getting back to work" or "lifting the lockdown." No, you're a degenerate gambler who wants to let it ride.

Even the smallest of measures to slow the virus are too much for you. A liberal plot to implement a tyrannical new world order, or a bunch of pussies wringing their hands. Let's review:

• Mitigation of spreading (Masks, Hygiene, Prohibiting large crowds) = NANNY STATE TYRANNY
• Robust, fast, and wide-spread testing = MY TAX DOLLARS WASTED
• Contact tracing to intervene asymptomatic spread = BIG BROTHER WATCHING MY EVERY MOVE
• Isolating the sick and exposed = UNLAWFUL IMPRISONMENT

I've come to the conclusion that you all want to roll the dice, and you'll keep rolling no matter how many times you lose. It's textbook degenerate gambling.

You're desperate to save the industry, but these actions will only make it worse. Lift the lock down- great. Rescind every law - you got it. Let me make it clear: If people are sick and dying around the country, then they will not fly. It's as simple as that.

The shelter-in-place orders were put in place to flatten the curve and give the country time to spool up mitigation efforts. And we've spent the last 8 weeks having studies on whether or not injecting Drano is a possible cure. If you want to protest - protest that. There is very little waiting for us on the backside of this lock down to help us through the next phase.

Letting the house burn itself out is not a strategy. It's a gamble.

Originally Posted by velosnow

So we'll be dead screw everyone else? I get that about right?