Lockdown and Civil Unrest Discussion
#531
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There are two types on this board
There are the real pilots with real jobs and then the “others”. The real pilots have real careers and understand there is a risk in everything we do in the that world out there and are actually flying now. The others are NPCs, bots, political agents, pilot wannabes afraid to go outside, etc.
Ladies and gentlemen, please don’t feed the others, it only encourages their brainwashed media hive behavior
Ladies and gentlemen, please don’t feed the others, it only encourages their brainwashed media hive behavior
#533
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Americans are too dumb to deal with this.
You can flame away and be mad at me or think I'm an idiot. I don't care. We are failing this miserably. And the folks who refuse to take officials advice and recommendations because of a political meme they saw on Facebook will continue to make the problem worse.
You can flame away and be mad at me or think I'm an idiot. I don't care. We are failing this miserably. And the folks who refuse to take officials advice and recommendations because of a political meme they saw on Facebook will continue to make the problem worse.
Last edited by Vincent Chase; 05-10-2020 at 03:08 PM.
#534
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While we're talking hypocrisy, every single time things such as tobacco, fast food or sugary drinks are put on the chopping block there is always a huge outcry. "Muh freedoms!". Seems no matter the best intentions in public policy "tryanny!" will always be the faux outrage. Then we sit here and try to equate personal health habits to a highly contagious disease? That's a stretch.
The objective analysis of our response to this will be interesting. There is merit in both wanting to save as many lives as possible and not dooming the world economy. At the same time, there is certainly more to life than money but the system we've created doesn't allow for much wiggle room with so many Americans living paycheck to paycheck. I maintain we need some serious social & economic overhauls after this to help shore up against future outbreaks and changes that will surely come down the road.
The objective analysis of our response to this will be interesting. There is merit in both wanting to save as many lives as possible and not dooming the world economy. At the same time, there is certainly more to life than money but the system we've created doesn't allow for much wiggle room with so many Americans living paycheck to paycheck. I maintain we need some serious social & economic overhauls after this to help shore up against future outbreaks and changes that will surely come down the road.
THESE ARE ALL GREAT IDEAS!!!!! You've cracked the code, bro.
Meanwhile, the Founders are rolling over in their graves. And I'm rolling my eyes at your ignorance.
#535
Shelter in place...
Is a $hi#y idea when the place you are sheltering is ground zero...
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4...related-deaths
An excerpt:
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4...related-deaths
An excerpt:
Several nursing and care homes for military veterans in New Jersey have become hotspots for the coronavirus pandemic, resulting in dozens of deaths among veterans at the facilities.
The New York Times reported Sunday that more than 120 virus-related deaths have been recorded at just two veterans' care facilities in New Jersey: the New Jersey Veterans Home at Paramus, and the Menlo Park Veterans Memorial Home. The deaths at those two facilities are just a small fraction of the high number of deaths reported in nursing homes across the state, where more than 4,800 people have died in total, more than half of the state's total death toll.
The problem is statewide, according to data reported by the Times: More than a dozen nursing facilities in the state have reported over 30 coronavirus-related deaths.
At the Paramus facility more than 60 percent of residents have contracted the disease, while about 20 percent of the staff is sick and one employee has died.
The New York Times reported Sunday that more than 120 virus-related deaths have been recorded at just two veterans' care facilities in New Jersey: the New Jersey Veterans Home at Paramus, and the Menlo Park Veterans Memorial Home. The deaths at those two facilities are just a small fraction of the high number of deaths reported in nursing homes across the state, where more than 4,800 people have died in total, more than half of the state's total death toll.
The problem is statewide, according to data reported by the Times: More than a dozen nursing facilities in the state have reported over 30 coronavirus-related deaths.
At the Paramus facility more than 60 percent of residents have contracted the disease, while about 20 percent of the staff is sick and one employee has died.
#536
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Americans are too dumb to deal with this.
The US has done by far the worst job containing the spread of this disease and will therefore suffer the most. Lots of other countries have significantly slowed the spread and can safely start reopening. We are going to reopen before we see any progress. The United States response to this pandemic is an embarrassment.
The US has done by far the worst job containing the spread of this disease and will therefore suffer the most. Lots of other countries have significantly slowed the spread and can safely start reopening. We are going to reopen before we see any progress. The United States response to this pandemic is an embarrassment.
Over 60,000 Americas have already died. That's 20X more than 9/11 and more than the entire Vietnam War.... And it only took 3 months!
Our incredibly poor handling of this will ensure that we suffer the most. While other countries go back to normal, we will be floundering. We have already had 5x more cases than anywhere else, and triple the deaths of the next worst country.
But yeah, we should totally protest the stay at home order. Let's see how bad we can make this. Let's all disregard information and rational thought. Let's pretend this is the govt trying to take away your liberty. Let's reopen everything and see if we can kill 100k people by the 4th of July. Let's keep spreading the virus so we can keep our schools closed and planes grounded for a long time! Let's open it up so we can make the problem far worse. Let's open it up and delay the return to normal as long as possible. Let's keep digging this hole deeper! Let's make this political! You know, because the virus cares who you voted for.
We have got to stop taking political sides on everything. We need to do the right thing so we can actually slow the spread and start to resume normal life. In case you haven't noticed, the Gov't hasn't stopped the airlines from flying. In fact, the govt just handed the airlines 25 Billion dollars and said "you can have this money so long as you keep flying." But.... no one is flying. People are scared of getting sick and dying. People are trying to stop the spread of the disease. Protesters at the capital are not part of the solution.
But yeah, we should totally protest the stay at home order. Let's see how bad we can make this. Let's all disregard information and rational thought. Let's pretend this is the govt trying to take away your liberty. Let's reopen everything and see if we can kill 100k people by the 4th of July. Let's keep spreading the virus so we can keep our schools closed and planes grounded for a long time! Let's open it up so we can make the problem far worse. Let's open it up and delay the return to normal as long as possible. Let's keep digging this hole deeper! Let's make this political! You know, because the virus cares who you voted for.
We have got to stop taking political sides on everything. We need to do the right thing so we can actually slow the spread and start to resume normal life. In case you haven't noticed, the Gov't hasn't stopped the airlines from flying. In fact, the govt just handed the airlines 25 Billion dollars and said "you can have this money so long as you keep flying." But.... no one is flying. People are scared of getting sick and dying. People are trying to stop the spread of the disease. Protesters at the capital are not part of the solution.
I fear that the United States will suffer far worse than anywhere else on earth. And we can thank the non stop, political BS this country consumes.
You can flame away and be mad at me or think I'm an idiot. I don't care. We are failing this miserably. And the folks who refuse to take officials advice and recommendations because of a political meme they saw on Facebook will continue to make the problem worse.
You can flame away and be mad at me or think I'm an idiot. I don't care. We are failing this miserably. And the folks who refuse to take officials advice and recommendations because of a political meme they saw on Facebook will continue to make the problem worse.
#537
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I think you're an idiot. YOU are failing miserably...at thinking CRITICALLY. Believe all "officials," no matter what! God gave them brains, but He never gave you one. Never track the money. Just keep swallowing that warm white cream CNN feeds you. Oh, and for GOD'S SAKE, PLEASE WEAR YOUR MASK!!!!
And my personal favorite: One guy at Target who LIFTED HIS MASK UP SO HE COULD COUGH, AND THEN PUT HIS MASK BACK DOWN over the mouth. Unbelievable!
Masks on right now is the same as the post 9/11 TSA security theater. As long as people can "see" it, they will feel safe. Even though it's just a dog n pony show, nothing more than a security theater.
#538
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I agree ..... in that....we never should have gone down the ridiculous lock down quarantine road that we find ourselves on. We are truly screwed now and it’s not about avoiding terrible economic consequences now it’s about mitigation of even worse damage. Its totally insane that complete economies were shut down for something that amounts to the Flu. You don’t or at least shouldn’t make these kinds of huge economic decisions absent hard data. COVID19 hysteria is almost complete BS for those that are healthy and under the age of 65. This whole COVID19 episode will be viewed in the future as a complete debacle and serve as a case study as exactly what not to do.
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#539
Holy cow! You're right! Maybe we need to burn this whole system down and make it in your desired image. Can we start with mail-in voter fraud? How about microchipping every human as Willie Gates suggests? Why stop there? Let's track everyone 24/7 and make them use e-currency so we can track all their spending habits?
THESE ARE ALL GREAT IDEAS!!!!! You've cracked the code, bro.
Meanwhile, the Founders are rolling over in their graves. And I'm rolling my eyes at your ignorance.
THESE ARE ALL GREAT IDEAS!!!!! You've cracked the code, bro.
Meanwhile, the Founders are rolling over in their graves. And I'm rolling my eyes at your ignorance.
#540
The basis for these lockdowns was the ICL prediction model, which was presented as “science”; settled, indisputable. Well, it was grade A bovine manure. They couldn’t even get reproducible results using the same inputs.
https://lockdownsceptics.org/code-re...rgusons-model/
https://lockdownsceptics.org/code-re...rgusons-model/
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