We need a plan B for no vaccine.
09-22-2020, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Downtime
The biggest problem is if the world goes to plan B. The airlines are going to plan F as in fail. Plan B will he continue what we have been doing until this thing burns itself out. I am not saying it is a good plan B but it’s the plan we have settled on.
09-22-2020, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
The world, obviously. But airlines as well. That shrink 50% - if it occurs - will not be distributed evenly to different business models. Some airlines will disappear altogether if that occurs, and not necessarily the ones many people would expect.
09-22-2020, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
The world, obviously. But airlines as well. That shrink 50% - if it occurs - will not be distributed evenly to different business models. Some airlines will disappear altogether if that occurs, and not necessarily the ones many people would expect.
Do I think that bad is likely? No.
09-26-2020, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
According to the above article, there is no longer a consensus on that Plan B.
Yeah but for the network carriers it does not matter what the US does. It only matters what other countries do. If they keep saying no US citizens the network carriers are going to fail.
09-26-2020, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Downtime
Yeah but for the network carriers it does not matter what the US does. It only matters what other countries do. If they keep saying no US citizens the network carriers are going to fail.
09-26-2020, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain
Plan B?
the Epidemiologists, immunologists, and virologists (and all their brothers and neighbors of....) on APC claim vaccine by end of year.
the Epidemiologists, immunologists, and virologists (and all their brothers and neighbors of....) on APC claim vaccine by end of year.
And indeed, they MAY pull it off. There is a first time for everything - but anything less than four years WOULD BE the first time. But even when it is, you have to convince enough people to take it to get the “critical mass” necessary for herd immunity.
Exclusive: Two-thirds of Americans say they won't get COVID-19 vaccine when it's first available, USA TODAY/Suffolk Poll shows
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1:47 Two-thirds of U.S. voters say they won't try to get a coronavirus vaccine as soon as it becomes available, and one in four say they don't want to ever get it, according to a new USA TODAY/Suffolk Poll released the same week that the number of COVID-19 cases surpassed 6 million.
“I don’t plan on being anyone’s guinea pig,” said Ebony Dew, an independent from Capitol Heights, Maryland. “I don’t plan on getting it at all.”
09-26-2020, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
And anyone who thinks that can be done by the police power of the state is as insane as the tinfoil beanie paranoids who won’t take any vaccine, and trying to force them that way would only make them more paranoid in any event.
09-26-2020, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
And indeed, they MAY pull it off. There is a first time for everything - but anything less than four years WOULD BE the first time. But even when it is, you have to convince enough people to take it to get the “critical mass” necessary for herd immunity.
And anyone who thinks that can be done by the police power of the state is as insane as the tinfoil beanie paranoids who won’t take any vaccine, and trying to force them that way would only make them more paranoid in any event.
And anyone who thinks that can be done by the police power of the state is as insane as the tinfoil beanie paranoids who won’t take any vaccine, and trying to force them that way would only make them more paranoid in any event.
After a few months there will be a very large (approx. 100M) phase-4 group. Other people will then get on the bandwagon as time passes, and also as certain activities (jobs, school, etc) mandate vaccination to get in the front door.
Where it could go wrong is if there are side-effects in phase-4 (or the media manufacturers side-effects). Mitigation there is multiple vaccines.
A vaccine will not make covid itself vanish, but it will be the inflection point in the recovery. It will generate a lot of optimism and activity and eventually those hiding under their beds will start feeling left out.
09-26-2020, 01:08 PM
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