Originally Posted by senecacaptain

Well, I disagree. with school back in session it can be reasonably surmised that travel post summer is business related, at least on weekdays. Not all of it of course. at the end of the day, we have XX people crossing the checkpoints. if that total number goes down during weekdays and slightly recovers during weekends, there is your answer. Data does not tell the story, it does not tell anything. data only reflects, like a mirror.

data must be interpreted and the hypothesis constructed after the numbers appear.

my opinion

Originally Posted by bradthepilot

The issue I have is that people state their opinions as facts. For example, your statement of

...is stated as though it were fact. It's not. It's not quantifiable, nor it is provable. Data science is fine with opinions, if they are stated as such - indeed, when positioned as a hypothesis they become the fulcrum on which data is used to further learning and understanding. But we get into trouble when we state our opinions to be facts.

Originally Posted by Excargodog

When stuff like this is going on - enforceable or not - getting 40.7% of last year’s numbers is actually about all one can reasonably expect:

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/d...virus/2412709/

Originally Posted by kingairfun

I still believe it's not so much fear of traveling any longer. It's confusion about which States are open for business, the hassle of travel and hassle of visiting different places, liability for businesses if one of their employees catches the Vid on a work trip.

Who the hell wants to travel, or visit any place, where there are confusing rules, hassles with even entering a mini mart, social distancing shaming for enjoying time with friends etc etc.

I am planning on taking the whole family to the East Coast in a few months, and seriously contemplating driving cross country vs. dealing with airports, passengers throwing mask tantrums, temp checks, the constant eyeballing if you take your mask down for 2 seconds, and getting death stares if god forbid you have a tickle in your throat and have to cough.

Once it is less of a pain to travel and enjoy oneself, and once businesses have some protection from litigation I think you'll see a pretty healthy shift in travel trends. ( Zoom is awful, it will not be the wave of the future unless it is dramatically improved)

Originally Posted by senecacaptain

the TSA numbers in next few weeks will tell us many of the answers

Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad

unfortunately the second wave I upon us, France reported the largest single day increases in cases yesterday. They had 10000 in on day.

Originally Posted by Soxfan1

So for yesterday we hit 30.8%. It’s hard to look at the past two weeks to compare due to 2019/2020 holidays being over both weeks, skewing the % YoY numbers each week. So I went back to 8/20 at 30.5.

As mentioned we need another week to start comparing WoW YoY %. But I’m happy we are still holding steady/slight gain from 3 weeks ago.

Originally Posted by senecacaptain

agree with this. pleasantly surprised that no drops to 20% etc.

09-10/Thur: 30.8%

I doubt 09-11 (today) will be reliable, in light of the tragedy on that date. I am not even worrying about the numbers on that date.

Originally Posted by Soxfan1

I would agree that there is a second wave - in France.

I don’t believe you can say that the second wave is upon “us”, based on that. The 7 day average of new cases nationwide here has been on a decline for 7 straight weeks. There is no data to support that the US is in a second wave. It isn’t even leveling off, but still declining. A lot of people expect a second wave - that’s fine to think that as it is very possible, but the data as of right now doesn’t support that it has started.