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Old 07-27-2020, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Propeller View Post
Some have mentioned comparing current daily passenger numbers to 2018 instead of 2019, but is there actualy a way to get this data? The only numbers I could find are from the TSA and the page looks like its made special for tracking the coronavirus drop in travel and it also only starts from March
FOI request maybe?
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July 27: 26.8%

still stuck in that 25-30% scud layer
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Old 07-28-2020, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain View Post
July 27: 26.8%

still stuck in that 25-30% scud layer
Good uptick week over week, however. Nudges the moving average up. Hopeful if seeing 30 pct in a couple weeks - if school starting doesn’t crater everything.
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Originally Posted by pangolin View Post
Good uptick week over week, however. Nudges the moving average up. Hopeful if seeing 30 pct in a couple weeks - if school starting doesn’t crater everything.
Yep, nice to see the day vs. week prior growth on the right side of zero. Looking at averages, however, it might be premature to call yesterday's uptick a trend as yesterday's growth rate of 0.7% is still well within two standard deviations of both the 7 and 14 day moving averages. That indicates that it's possible the uptick *could* be noise in the data and not a significant change.

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bottom line is we are stuck in the 25-30% level. It is what it is. We are also coming out of the weekend and a Monday.

the same thing that nudges the moving average up will nudge it back down once we see Tuesday-Wed-Thur data come in

August 25-ish school will start or be close to starting virtually or physically in most parts of country. Maybe the "last weekend of summer" we pierce the 30% level
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain View Post
bottom line is we are stuck in the 25-30% level. It is what it is. We are also coming out of the weekend and a Monday.

the same thing that nudges the moving average up will nudge it back down once we see Tuesday-Wed-Thur data come in

August 25-ish school will start or be close to starting virtually or physically in most parts of country. Maybe the "last weekend of summer" we pierce the 30% level
One small correction. The mid week slump, since we compare same day of week, doesn’t negatively impact the moving average.
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One small correction. The mid week slump, since we compare same day if week, doesn’t negatively impact the moving average.
I agree but the MA is lagging indicator. My point is the daily numbers, if consistent, will eventually "show up" in the MAs

Tue-Wed-Thru for each week in the coming weeks should be telling
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain View Post
I agree but the MA is lagging indicator. My point is the daily numbers, if consistent, will eventually "show up" in the MAs
I've settled on reporting information out on Mondays only, primarily so it's consistent from week to week. Which day of the week it is is arbitrary. That removes the "breathing" effect that the average does across the rest of the week from naturally lower and naturally higher travel days.

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Tue-Wed-Thru for each week in the coming weeks should be telling
Tuesdays and Wednesdays I can understand, since those are typically slower than other days of the week. Thursday is usually right up there, however, so I'm wondering what it is you see across those three days that is telling?
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Originally Posted by bradthepilot View Post
I've settled on reporting information out on Mondays only, primarily so it's consistent from week to week. Which day of the week it is is arbitrary. That removes the "breathing" effect that the average does across the rest of the week from naturally lower and naturally higher travel days.



Tuesdays and Wednesdays I can understand, since those are typically slower than other days of the week. Thursday is usually right up there, however, so I'm wondering what it is you see across those three days that is telling?
those are the only "non-weekend" days in my mind. Friday arguably has weekend characteristics for leisure as many people take Friday off or take the PM off to get a head start a leisure trip versus burn part of Saturday in travel mode.

Friday is odd, because you may have the early weekend travelers headed outbound, and the business return travel coming home.

I just wish the TSA data could be explored deeper.

^^ not saying I am "right" or you are "wrong" just speaking out loud here
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https://english.alarabiya.net/en/cor...fore-2024-IATA

The latest IATA prediction forecasts global air travel to not return to pre-pandemic levels until 2024 at the earliest.
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