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Old 07-28-2020, 12:41 PM
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https://english.alarabiya.net/en/cor...fore-2024-IATA

The latest IATA prediction forecasts global air travel to not return to pre-pandemic levels until 2024 at the earliest.
please. We were well on our way back in June, until the virus flared up again. Not knocking you, because you are just citing an article, but the doom predictions from various corners are ridiculous. Now if they mean 2.7 million exactly, I agree that could be possible, but we’ll see 2 million (which is enough for me to consider us back)well before 2024.
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Old 07-28-2020, 01:32 PM
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Id like to see how this week plays out and to see how August 4th (monday) looks like next week. The last 4 days finaly had improvements over last week same weekday numbers
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Originally Posted by itsmytime View Post
please. We were well on our way back in June, until the virus flared up again. Not knocking you, because you are just citing an article, but the doom predictions from various corners are ridiculous. Now if they mean 2.7 million exactly, I agree that could be possible, but we’ll see 2 million (which is enough for me to consider us back)well before 2024.
Trying really hard to keep this thread on track, I'm going to try to tie this off-topic idea (IATA numbers) back to the on-topic idea (TSA data) by sharing that they are really looking at two different things. TSA is passenger screening counts only and only considers passengers that pass through a TSA screening checkpoint (whether domestic or international). The IATA numbers are global numbers that consider passengers not being plagued by the TSA at any point. It is very feasible that they recover at different points.

A discussion around the IATA data that is available would be great - especially if it was in another thread so as to not run this one off topic and potentially into the lock zone as happened to the previous TSA data thread.
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Old 07-28-2020, 09:31 PM
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Things are looking pretty concerning to me. We can't break thru the 750k level and soon summer break/ summer travel season will be over.
This fall might look a lot worse than I was thinking.

Bring on that vaccine asap!
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This is a dumb question and lo siento if someone has brought it up already, but the TSA numbers is that *just* passengers with boarding passes going through the checkpoint,or does that number include airport workers,and flight crews that might not be using KCM - not like that would change the numbers a ton - just curious


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Old 07-29-2020, 04:54 AM
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July 28: 22.0%

back out of 25-30% zone (below it)

July 28 was a Monday
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Originally Posted by Av8rPHX View Post
This is a dumb question and lo siento if someone has brought it up already, but the TSA numbers is that *just* passengers with boarding passes going through the checkpoint,or does that number include airport workers,and flight crews that might not be using KCM - not like that would change the numbers a ton - just curious


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I am not sure. What nobody knows is how profitable these tickets are, or "which" airline is seeing more pax than not. Also, If 1,000 PAX board via a $5 ticket, not sure if that is profitable.

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* Data is current as of the date posted and may be periodically adjusted to include Known Crewmembers and later flight travel numbers.
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain View Post
July 28: 22.0%

back out of 25-30% zone (below it)

July 28 was a Monday

July 28,2020 - yesterday - was a Tuesday.
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain View Post
July 28: 22.0%

back out of 25-30% zone (below it)

July 28 was a Monday
The 14th vs 21st vs 28th went from 22.0 to 21.2 to 22%. I wouldn’t call that back out of 25-30%, when week over week on Tuesdays % of last year has consistently been in the 20-25% and not the 25-30 range for 3 weeks. It’s flat but not going down.
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Originally Posted by Soxfan1 View Post
The 14th vs 21st vs 28th went from 22.0 to 21.2 to 22%. I wouldn’t call that back out of 25-30%, when week over week on Tuesdays % of last year has consistently been in the 20-25% and not the 25-30 range for 3 weeks. It’s flat but not going down.
Sox is right; Tuesdays haven't really ever been in the 25-30% range. You'll notice, too, that the Tuesdays growth rate took a big hit three weeks ago and is struggling to go recover ever since.
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