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Old 10-08-2020, 09:47 AM
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Old 10-08-2020, 09:53 AM
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Both sides play their negotiating games. I’m sure Nancy read the Trump tweets on how he will unilaterally fund the airline aid himself, she knows he can’t, so now she is holding that hostage against what she wants.

What chapter in the Art of the Deal do they discuss letting your opponent know what you want the most, so they can leverage it against you?
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo View Post
Both sides play their negotiating games. I’m sure Nancy read the Trump tweets on how he will unilaterally fund the airline aid himself, she knows he can’t, so now she is holding that hostage against what she wants.

What chapter in the Art of the Deal do they discuss letting your opponent know what you want the most, so they can leverage it against you?
Even if true, that scarcely makes the suck any less sucky for the hostages, does it?
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo View Post
Both sides play their negotiating games. I’m sure Nancy read the Trump tweets on how he will unilaterally fund the airline aid himself, she knows he can’t, so now she is holding that hostage against what she wants.

What chapter in the Art of the Deal do they discuss letting your opponent know what you want the most, so they can leverage it against you?
With thousands of layoffs coming to us, there is no doubt Trump wants to take that political capital off the table. I doubt anyone if government actually cares about the airlines.
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With thousands of layoffs coming to us, there is no doubt Trump wants to take that political capital off the table. I doubt anyone if government actually cares about the airlines.
the Donald genuinely wants to help us. He had been saying that since the beginning of this. The dems also want to help since we are all union. From what I can see, the issue is the dems want to sneak pork in and some gop senators don’t want to keep bailing us out, we are the only Fortune 500 companies who have gotten free money so far.
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With thousands of layoffs coming to us, there is no doubt Trump wants to take that political capital off the table. I doubt anyone if government actually cares about the airlines.
They may not care about workers, but they do care about a key economic enabler.

The ones who like business, want the economy back.

The ones who like taxes are slowly coming to the realization that there's not going to anything to tax if the economy doesn't turn around.

There are also some who just want the airlines to go away for good.
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They may not care about workers, but they do care about a key economic enabler.

The ones who like business, want the economy back.

The ones who like taxes are slowly coming to the realization that there's not going to anything to tax if the economy doesn't turn around.

There are also some who just want the airlines to go away for good.
True. Good thing Greta is too young to vote (since being a citizen apparently isn't required).
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:05 PM
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Not sure why you think that the airlines are being held hostage by politicians. DC isn't telling people not to buy tickets. Demand is low because business travel has come to a grinding halt. The airlines were already given $25b to get thru 6 months. Unemployment fell from 14.7% to 7.9%, but people still aren't flying, even with mask requirements and airlines blocking middle seats. What happens if another $25b comes through and 6 mos from now, business travel is still flat? $25b more?
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Originally Posted by atooraya View Post
Not sure why you think that the airlines are being held hostage by politicians. DC isn't telling people not to buy tickets. Demand is low because business travel has come to a grinding halt. The airlines were already given $25b to get thru 6 months. Unemployment fell from 14.7% to 7.9%, but people still aren't flying, even with mask requirements and airlines blocking middle seats. What happens if another $25b comes through and 6 mos from now, business travel is still flat? $25b more?
They’re not. In fact it was Pelosi that’s been trying to get the deal done. Probably for ulterior motives, but still, when Trump got sick they tried to get something done quickly while the meds were still kicking in. If they don’t come up with something next few days there probably won’t be one till after the new year.
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