rickair7777

I am not a covid skeptic, remember I'm the guy who's tracking vaccine progress as a hobby ever since this started. What I am is frustrated that politicians and the media have created an environment where a lot of people don't even know what to believe... which clearly fuels skepticism and non-cooperation.

Although I am actually becoming something of a skeptic as to the ACTUAL impact of covid vs. the ACTUAL economic cost to society (which translates DIRECTLY to a health and well-being cost to society). I don't think we'll know the real numbers for years. In the meantime anyone can make up whatever they want to suit their agenda.

As of yesterday I now actually know someone who died from covid (she was at my wedding years ago). My friend's Mom who was totally incapacitated by alzheimers and has been on death's door for a couple years. She had in-home care with limited staff, tested every other day and none of them had any symptoms or positive tests. The lady in question rarely went out doors, and lived on multi-acre ag land... thousands of feet from anything or anybody else. Her daughter doesn't understand how she could have even got covid, what she had was pneumonia which was apparently close enough to covid symptoms.

rickair7777

But they vote. And we need their cooperation in this.

That's why I think a more voluntary approach might have worked better, perhaps with paid incentives. The federal stimulus money actually had an inadvertent incentive effect... a lot of low-level workers made more on unemployment so they naturally stayed home.

Mesabah

I've seen some Congress members advocating to pay people $1500 to take the vaccine.

highfarfast

At fist I was about to say something along the lines that we shouldn’t be paying people that kind of money to take something that’s good for them. But then figured, it’s better than just paying everyone a $1,200 stimulus check for nothing.

Knobcrk1

It sounds like you have legitimate reasons but many are definitely politicizing it to fit their agendas. One person of power did something now or months ago and so everything is BS? I too am frustrated that politicians may say one thing and do another however I’m not using that as ammo to say that masks don’t work, health mandates are not necessary and it’s all BS. What we need to do is to do our part, do what’s right not what’s convenient, to end this pandemic. Nobody knows the best way to handle this, it’s all just experiments on the part of the officials and what they’re choosing is the most conservative experiment so that lives are saved at the expense of people having a really tough time. Opening it up just gives it a false sense of well being and the cost will be much worse.

block30

The people with access to best medical data and briefings are clearly showing they arent scared of covid (when they think no one is looking.)

Even that Ferguson guy who forecast the 2.2 million deaths went and had sex with a married woman who herself had a husband and kids at home to infect !! Im assuming he's an A hole but I also assume he knew he wouldnt be a killer.

here is a brief synopsis;

"He saw his married girlfriend, Antonia Staats, during the lockdown; she traveled from her home to his, while he was still, technically, recovering after a diagnosis of COVID. Staats says she and her husband have an open marriage. She says she suspects her husband has COVID."

And we all knew this scandal EARLY in the covid crisis.


Forgive me if I dont fall all over myself scared of covid.

rickair7777

There's an always an idiot or two, I understand people enough to tune out the static. But this has been a steady parade, which has led me to believe that some of these don't actually believe a word of what they're telling the rest of us.

Yes, it is an experiment but it's a very expensive experiment.

I suppose I'm OK with more restrictions ON THE ASSUMPTION that there's an end in sight a few months down the road. If the vaccines don't work, or aren't safe, or nobody takes them, then this will all need to end regardless and people make their own choices. We CANNOT stay on lockdown indefinitely, if you think the economy is bad now wait and see what it looks like a year from now. Major economic sectors are running on momentum, savings, and hope (including us) but it's not sustainable. How is big government going to fix THAT? Nationalize everything and make us all vassal employees of the State? That will get you an insurrection or maybe even a civil war.

firefighterplt

If I had a dollar for every time someone put their ween into someone else despite knowing it was a catastrophically terrible idea, I’d be richer than Jeff Bezos.

Combine the limbic system with “that won’t happen to me” machismo...

CincoDeMayo

Yup. A case of pay now vs pay later. And most of the time,
It’s going to be cheaper to pay now vs later

Nantonaku

Have you been out in public recently? Mask compliance is very high. And have you seen the covid numbers? No way masks do anything close to 50%. If they worked so good the economy would be able to fully open up. And if you believe top scientists then mask work better than a vaccine. The future looks bleak if that is the case.