Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Pilot Lounge > Hangar Talk > COVID19
ALPA email about vaccine >

ALPA email about vaccine

Search
Notices
COVID19 Pandemic Information and Reports

ALPA email about vaccine

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-12-2020, 04:11 PM
  #21  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2019
Posts: 537
Default

Originally Posted by OOfff View Post
If you use your critical thinking to actually look up any numbers, it’s 1-4/10,000 per year.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell...15%20and%2060.


as you say, “sorry if you can’t grasp that.”
4 out of 10,000 per year (the absolute high end) still does not fall in to the normal range for this study.

The study was 70 days. Back to the drawing board chief.
rld1k is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 04:15 PM
  #22  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 6,716
Default

Originally Posted by rld1k View Post
4 out of 10,000 per year (the absolute high end) still does not fall in to the normal range for this study.

The study was 70 days. Back to the drawing board chief.
4/10,000 is the general population figure, not the number for study participants (bell’s doesn’t really occur in children, so the numbers skew higher in adults). You know, you could just say “huh, guess I was wrong on that.”
OOfff is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 04:19 PM
  #23  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 534
Default

Originally Posted by rld1k View Post
4 out of 10,000 per year (the absolute high end) still does not fall in to the normal range for this study.

The study was 70 days. Back to the drawing board chief.
​​​​​​
Ok you’re concerned with the vaccine. So you should WANT everyone else to take it… because if enough people take it voluntarily and herd immunity is achieved there might not be any need for mandates (that’s good for YOU).
Gordie H is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 04:52 PM
  #24  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2019
Posts: 537
Default

Originally Posted by OOfff View Post
4/10,000 is the general population figure, not the number for study participants (bell’s doesn’t really occur in children, so the numbers skew higher in adults). You know, you could just say “huh, guess I was wrong on that.”
I know it's the general population figure. I'm saying the study is outside of those numbers by a large amount.
rld1k is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 04:56 PM
  #25  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 6,716
Default

Originally Posted by rld1k View Post
I know it's the general population figure. I'm saying the study is outside of those numbers by a large amount.
okay, man, you’re the guy casting accusations at doctors before you even knew that the figures were per year and not lifetime. Maybe pump the brakes on flashing your medical knowledge and listen to the people with expertise?
OOfff is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 05:29 PM
  #26  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 241
Default

Originally Posted by decrabbitz View Post
Man this post has me in a flashback to the Anthrax shot of the late ‘90s. The government forcing a shot of dubious efficacy onto military members. It was a shiite show from beginning to end and ruined a lot of careers (both professionally and medically). Hopefully this round goes smoother....
Had a neighbor serve then and wind up dying paralyzed in a bed in his own living room. Could only move his eyes to communicate. They think it was the shots. Guy had always been healthy as a horse.
Escargot is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 05:42 PM
  #27  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2019
Posts: 537
Default

Originally Posted by OOfff View Post
okay, man, you’re the guy casting accusations at doctors before you even knew that the figures were per year and not lifetime. Maybe pump the brakes on flashing your medical knowledge and listen to the people with expertise?

Ok so you're wrong and I'm right how else would you like to twist this? The experts have zero credibility and have turned millions of people against the medical community with the politics and god complex doctors have.
rld1k is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 06:22 PM
  #28  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 6,716
Default

Originally Posted by rld1k View Post
Ok so you're wrong and I'm right how else would you like to twist this? The experts have zero credibility and have turned millions of people against the medical community with the politics and god complex doctors have.
you’re not right. You were wrong several times in a row because you didn’t even have the intellectual curiosity to find out the numbers (per year or lifetime)before you started arguing them. And you have the gall to question the integrity of people who actually work in the medical field?


it’s also worth noting that Bell’s palsy is not cerebral palsy, and isn’t the end of your career. It’s an acute, treatable event. But “palsy” sounds scary, doesn’t it?

Last edited by OOfff; 12-12-2020 at 06:40 PM.
OOfff is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 07:06 PM
  #29  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 880
Default

Originally Posted by ToddChavez View Post
Let me preface, as a healthy male in his late 30s, I have no plan or desire to take a vaccine that causes horrid side effects, all for a pandemic that will naturally end on its own. I do not need lifetime immunity to this.

So it really irks me that ALPA is a bunch of eager beavers to get this approved for us. We have no idea of long term effects of the vaccine. We already know most who take it are sicker than if they caught the actual virus. Multiple participants had 101+ degree fevers with other severe symptoms.

It makes me wonder what their position will be when they decide a year from now to make it mandatory for flight crews.
you should stick to talking about what you actually know about.
domino is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 07:17 PM
  #30  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 6,716
Default

Pilots keep telling me it’s safe to fly, but they can’t be trusted; they have a vested interest in me getting on an airplane. Airplanes crash all the time and these “pilots” are just in bed with Pratt and Whitney trying to get us all to huff their recirculated air. We demand real information from real experts, not someone from the deep airline.
OOfff is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Birddog
United
236
08-11-2016 07:55 AM
USMCFDX
FedEx
94
07-27-2016 07:14 AM
Aero1900
Frontier
160
04-29-2016 07:56 PM
GW258
Mergers and Acquisitions
270
09-30-2012 07:48 AM
Harry Canyon
Major
106
03-16-2011 07:43 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices